A jihad against Pastor Paul James of the Wesleyan Church

220 Comments

• Just wanted to get some more information as I am just reading this for the first time...who is this Paul James? Is he still in the wesleyan church???
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 at 3:52pm

• Eric...I would also like to know more. I know a Paul James. Could it be the same one?
  By Also Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 3:51pm

• Yes, this is THE W Paul James, a completely contemptible man. He was a Wesleyan pastor in Indiana before leaving there under cloud of sexual scandal and running to Kansas where he was promoted to his highest level of incompetence - district superintendent. There are records there - in safe-keeping - of several indiscretions. Confronted by some sudden demon, James resigned the DS job to quarterback Heartland Christian Fellowship in Overland Park KS. James' tenure there terminated in chaos - a fractured staff, a rudderless board, and antagonisms spread throughout the withering congregation. (Somewhere during this fatal final phase, James had his gluttonous gut banded up so he could accomplish mechanically that which he could never accomplish with personal discipline.) From Kansas, James moved to Florida to the only job he could find - a make-work job in his NON-Wesleyan brother's NON-Wesleyan church. After a year of licking his own pustulous backside, James received the appointment of District Superintendent in the Wesleyan sewer otherwise known as Eastern New York / New England. Other than an overseas assignment, say to Lapland, this district is about as far out of sight / out of mind as a washed up, disgraced, discredited humbug of human being can get. If there were karma in Christianity, there would be a good 700 people lined up from Kansas to Indiana to Florida to New York perfectly willing to kick W Paul James in his busted ass. I'd pay a double share to be first in line.
  By Anonymous on Monday, May 4, 2009 at 11:12pm

• If you are a true Christian you would not have written these words, especially using the language you are using. I believe you are the one with the problem. No one is perfect. This is a good man. When he left at least one of the churches, or should I say when he was pushed out the door by horrible people, he encouraged all in the congregation to stay. Many in the congregation prayed and found direction to move to a better place. He encouraged all to stay and not leave because he left. God knows what really happened there and what is due will come...
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, May 20, 2009 at 3:51pm

• puss bag, piss bag
  By Anonymous on Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 10:08pm

• Dear Stupid, I mean Anonymous, your wrote: "If you are a true Christian you would not have written these words, especially using the language you are using... he was pushed out the door by horrible people"
  
  Now, is that nice?
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 21, 2009 at 9:42pm

• PLEASE STOP
  
  Paul James is a broken man. He has come to us in New York with open arms and an open heart. The DBA has embraced him, and thanks to his contrite and confessional attitude we believe he is finding forgiveness for what others still press against him.
  
  This mudslinging does nothing but reopen wounds that are better left in the past. Paul mourns the "dark corners of his life journey" but we are all encouraged to see him committed to walking toward the light of truth, love, and forgiveness.
  
  Especially to those in Florida, please have some grace. Paul was a broken man when he came to you with nothing but love in his heart. Your meanness and unforgiveness has made his soul recovery more painful and lengthy. You should be ashamed of yourselves for expecting this very human man to be "perfect". Take a look in your own mirror before casting stones at a man who is sincerely trying to make ammends and to make progress in his very human journey.
  
  Have some grace, for God's sake.
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 21, 2009 at 9:52pm

• "The DBA has embraced him, and thanks to his contrite and confessional attitude we believe he is finding forgiveness for what others still press against him. "
  
  Who can forgive sins? Christ. Amazing that the DBA has now assumed that role.
  
  Paul James has left a wake of bodies, careers, relationships, and churches behind him and after each step has sobbed and acted contrite and the people in the next place were always either big enough dupes or too kind to see his pattern and life for the crop it had produced.
  
  It is not your place to tell others how they should deal with the hurt this man has dealt them. Maybe the Wesleyan Church should sack up and get rid of ministers like this instead or promoting them on to new states, higher positions, and more damage.
  
  This whole thing is beginning to ring like Catholicism.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 at 3:45pm

• This whole thing has become a blog for whiners.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, September 24, 2009 at 10:43pm

• I can say that he brought me to Christ while he was in Kansas. That I believe is one of the greatest things a Christian can do.
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 28, 2009 at 7:26pm

• "to Christ while he was in Kansas"???
  
  When was Christ in Kansas? Sounds kind of mormon.
  
  All I can say is that he, repeatedly, brought me to tears when he was in Florida. (When Paul James was in Florida, not Jesus.)
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 at 11:12pm

• For crying out loud, give this guy a break. He's not perfect. He doesn't even claim to be. He is a good man trying to be much better. What did Jesus say, "let she who is with out sin, cast the rock."? Can we do that. Can we have some mercy - Chris refered to a woman caught in the act of adultery, doesn't Paul W. James deserve the exact same courtesy? This bloodbath should stop some where. How about here.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, October 11, 2009 at 12:00am

• I am around this guy alot at this time i cant believe the things he has done i always had a bad vibe when i was around him but could never figure him out. If you know specific things he did to woman or with someone elses money please let me know so i can rest my stress over what is going on with this guy. The wife is a little fruity to
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 5:10pm

• I don't know how someone could preach about God but at the same time be the monster that we all are affraid of. How can somebody so holy and so kind be so terriable at the same time? What Actually happened and was there any supportive evidence stating the facts? These people seem to be to kind and open hearted then all of these statements? My trust in god and my faith have been tested again. Please respond before the lives that are close to his and familys are ruined. Thank you and God Bless.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at 8:18pm

• this guy if he is the same one i know appears to want the upper hand. don't know too much about him and would like to find out more need direction for more.........
  By Anonymous on Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 2:24pm

• I knew PJ for about a year when he was in Florida. I didn't attend his church we we talked often when he would come into my store. (He left here kind of suddenly and I was never sure where he ended up.) The things stated above sound pretty severe, but not entirely off the mark. I'm not much of a Christian, but I don't think there is supposed to be this much junk flying around a church. PJ said that his years in Indiana we're nice but he could never get through the "Kansas phog" (always spelling it out that way to me). He said the founders (of the church?) wouldn't let him fly. He said he had a staff he had "home grown" from "whipped pups" and he took a lot of ownership for them, if not real pride. He never talked about why he left, but it always came up, well, he would say to me how good I've got it (I own my own store) and I don't have a group of people I have to ask for permission "to wipe my butt" (as he put it). PJ was a nice man, was always very chatty with me and everyone who came into my store. He was a bit flirty with the women (two in particular), but I assumed that was because he was more comfortable around them. He always told me to come to his church (I went through a divorce and they had a recovery deal there). I never did but I thought about it. I have no real objection with this guy (just stumbled across his name while running a jihad on my ex). One thing was odd. I always got the feeling that because he bought stuff from me, he felt like I owed him something. Wish I could explain. Sort of everytime after he paid for something, he would suggest something I could do for him or with him. Not exactly creepy, but real odd. Like I said, we talked a lot and that was about it. Oh, he always wanted to give me advice on running my store. That was odd. He would suggest that as an owner I could get discouraged and I should "focus on my wins, not losses." He would slip in that he was "coaching" me. Now that was always odd because I never talk about the health of my business to anyone (not since the divorce anyway). So okay, I'll wrap this up. PJ, decent guy but I like having some distance from him.
  By Anonymous on Monday, October 26, 2009 at 10:14am

• I wish I could share that last guy's attitude about Mr. James. Decent guy? Not so much. Keep my distance? Absolutely. A bit flirty? OMG
  
  I guess Mr. James figured out that I like to hang out at this particular restaurant / coffee shop. I didn't notice him at first but I guess he noticed me. (I began to notice some patterns such like he was never in the shop before me but always after me.) Anyway he always made a point to smile at me or say hello. Not to odd except he would do this even when I wasn't making (as in trying to avoid) eye contact with him. He found out my name from the clerks. Out of nowhere he was just speak a greeting to me. Horribly forward in my way of thinking. So Mr. James made a point of always "greeting" me. Occasionally he would strike up some sort of conversation with me, like if I was reading the WH News Chief he would comment on the headline and ask me if I was aware of that story. (Which is odd, right, if it is a Headline and I'm reading the newspaper in the first place.) I just thought it was an odd way to speak to a person.
  
  Two times, Mr James, made a point of talking to me about how he had "conquered his weight problem" or something like that. I'm like most gals I carry around and extra 30 pounds and I certainly feel uncomfortable with men talking about weight theirs or mine. I just can't believe he would talk about that to someone he didn't know. Seems as stupid as it is also rude.
  
  Well thats all I got. I'm on this site because my neighbor told my sister is getting hammered here. (I got your back Jean and you know who will get his.) I just started looking up people I know. Kind of mean place. Don't know about the rest of the stuff about Mr. James. He never struck me the way people say but he was certainly a doofus or something.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, November 4, 2009 at 11:06pm

• If some bit of gossip come, file the thing away
  Scandalously spicy crumb, file the thing away
  If suspicion come to you
  That your neighbor isn't true
  Let me tell you what to do, file the thing away
  
  Do this for a little while
  Then go out and burn the file
  (by J. K. Bangs)
  By Anonymous on Friday, November 6, 2009 at 3:57pm

• Oh great, now it looks like PJ hisself is posting here. Did you see that last (Nov 6) post? What a happy platitude.
  
  Listen, I'm no brain surgeon, but it really seems to me that each and every post here - for or against PJ - are from first person experience (except whatever drivel that idiot on May 20 posted). This is not "gossip". This is not "suspicion". This jihad is filled with personal experiences that stack up to present a consistent and compelling picture of an All-American douche bag.
  
  Here's my first person report - W. Paul James will walk straight out of a conversation in which he swore privacy and blab about it to 20 people before sun sets. He lies, he exaggerates, and he conspires to destroy people that he cannot control. This is consistent with everything else that has been said about him above. The fact that he can't seem to keep his decrepit hormones in check or work encouragingly with other people is more evidence that he has pretty well earned his low reputation.
  
  Let's all agree. No posts on this topic that are not true, first-hand experiences. Then maybe we won't have to read anymore crap poetry from Grandma. Ok?
  By Anonymous on Monday, November 16, 2009 at 9:25pm

• Hey, Anon, I'm not Paul James and I'm no grandmother! I just want people like you to "burn the file" and drop the attack and move on with your life. You must have more important things to do that spread crap like this...or maybe not???
  By Anonymous on Monday, November 30, 2009 at 9:31pm

• Yes, if all of us from his Indiana years would/could only forget how this man screwed all of us- and I believe the sheer volume of stories here is staggering and evidence of his destructive nature- and then how it has been covered up by the Wesleyan Church.
  
  Why don't YOU move on? He must not have hurt you or maybe you are part of the whole thing.
  
  The best thing to do with a sinful man like this is to forgive, forget, move on, promote, and allow the damage to continue... why didn't I think of that? O, now I remember- I have use my head.
  
  Wherever Paul is, God protect them.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 at 2:38pm

• and another perspective...
  
  I don't know what's up with James, but I'll never forget the batshitcrazy wife of his and how she came down on me when I asked for a confidential conversation with him. Cripes.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, December 3, 2009 at 11:16pm

• Hey Grandma on Nov 6 and 30, this is not a forum for rebuttal or counter attack. Are you demonstrating "move on with your lives" or are you just preaching to others what you can't possibly do yourself? Sounds like you're a devoted disciple of The Jamester, himself.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 5, 2009 at 11:13am

• In honor of the season, I'll share this. Around the James household (I'm a member of the extended family) we call this Merry Guiltmas. OMG. You have never seen such pettiness and scorekeeping at a time that is supposed to be about love. Even the grandkids are infected with it (especially the oldest one) whining, "You gave so-and-so better presents than me." It's embarassing. The worst thing is PaPa Paul's unwelcome "coaching" on how to give gifts a better way "next year". And not only does he lecture you, but then he asks all these stupid questions like, "Don't you think that would be better?" Like if we agree with him that somehow makes him right. The guy is a real jackass and I do everything to avoid or minimize social situations with Paul.
  
  I'm not sure if all the church stuff written before if right or not (there are subjects we must not speak about), but as a husband, father, grandfather Paul James is more Grinch than Santa Clause.
  By Please Don't Publish My Name on Monday, December 14, 2009 at 4:39pm

• "Mah daddy always told me that he wouldn't hire someone with dirty shoes or a dirty car."
  
  That's what you get folks. You can have a dirty filthy life, but keep your car washed and your shoes shined and you've got a future with the James Gang.
  By Tertulian on Thursday, December 17, 2009 at 11:01pm

• It's Christmas so let's be charirtable. The nigger'z crazy.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, December 20, 2009 at 5:41pm

• I don’t know where that last comment came from. Paul James is as white as they come. But Paul James did tell me one day the both the raunchiest and most racist joke I have ever heard.
  
  First, let me say, I am on this page because I was reading something about my ex-wife (and she had it coming too). I decided to look up other people I have known. I ran across Mr. James. He and I lived in the same community in Indiana years ago. A mutual friend invited James and two other friends to go golfing at Rozella Ford Golf Club. One of the other guys found out that James was a preacher and kept telling off-color jokes, I guess to get a reaction out of James. He’d smirk, but never laugh out loud. I didn’t know if he was offended or amused.
  
  Finally about halfway through, James changed in his attitude. I’ll never forget James shanked his ball bad to the right in the creek on the 10th hole. He’d already lost 2 balls and he was really upset about risking losing another ball and dropping way behind the rest of us. He went down in the creek to look for the ball. When he finally reemerged, he had a weird smile on his face. He took his drop, rolled it down the rest of the fairway, and then approached the three of us saying, “Okay, I’ve got a joke for y’all.”
  
  He paused for a moment and then asked, “Do you know why God made women’s assholes bigger than their vaginas?” Nervously not waiting for a response, James answered his own question in a half-whisper, “Because ni&&ers dicks are so big.”
  
  We were so blown away with what he said, none of us even laughed. He got in his cart with his friend and sped on up the fairway to play his ball (the rest of us were already on the green). No one told a joke the rest of the way in. But James acted like he was king of the world and just smirked the rest of the afternoon. I saw him around town several times after that, but he never spoke to me or acted like he even knew me.
  
  I guess the thing that surprises me the most is that after he moved to Kansas I heard that his daughter married a black guy. I won’t if he remembers that joke now?
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 26, 2009 at 3:53pm

• Ho Ho Ho
  
  James has a blog http://northeastlifecoach.blogspot.com/
  
  Read his Dec 16 entry. Everything the post here above (on Dec 14) is there. James post is full of all the crap he did for the grandkids complete with his wife telling him to get other pastors to help get his duties done.
  
  It's hilarious. And he tries to turn all this, including his bossy wife, into some pre-picture of heaven.
  
  I love the way he tarts up his grnadaughter and her thigh high boots.
  
  Ho Ho Ho
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 26, 2009 at 10:31pm

• I know for a fact that the KS District does have a file on Paul James. I am aware of the suppositions about what is in the file (first post by Eric is right on target). Is there any legal reason the file has to be kept private (secret). Is there any maneuver available to interested parties to gain access to the file? I believe that what is true about Paul James should be made public for the good of the denomination. Any Wesleyan parliamentarians out there?
  By Curious Sunflower on Tuesday, December 29, 2009 at 3:16pm

• I recognize that any website entitled "Jihad On You" is not likely to be a place of endless encomium about a person, but in this case, the subject does such a magnificent job of praising himself that a fair amount of denigration is warranted.
  
  James' blog (http://northeastlifecoach.blogspot.com) is one blathering self-adulation after another. If he's not praising himself for all the lives he's coached (hence the self-congratulatory blog title), he's treating a drive through New York City (something millions of people do everyday) as some twelve-step graduation exercise. As noted above, he compares the homecoming of his daughter and her oddly-spaced, oddly fathered progeny to some preview of Heaven, itself. (I wonder if God, Himself, is pleased with the comparison?)
  
  The point is that all of us struggle with our human defects. James goes out of his way to elude his. I listened to his crap for a year when he sojourned in sunny Florida. James bragged about his weight loss (through self-discipline) only to find out much later on that he had bariatric surgery. He bragged about how he had come to Florida to help his brother hurdle over a growth barrier (whatever that is) only to find out later he got his fat ass run out of Kansas - no doubt for good reason.
  
  And now I read this Jihad page laid up against his own gloating "Life Coach" blog. I doubt that he is precisely as bad as some of the comments posted above, but I also doubt he is just one shimmer shy of the glory of heaven as he trumpets in his blog. Personally, James always made me nervous. I never felt like I could trust anything he said. I felt like he was always managing the conversation to keep me off balance so as to keep himself in control. One could say that this is simply a personal observation and not necessarily valid. All too true. But what do you church people say? In the mouth or two or three witnesses... There seems to be many mouths sounding off here and I doubt that the whole voice can be whinsically dismissed. The fact that James is so terribly careful to present his life as one masterful Thomas Kincaid painting with himself as the central point of light makes me cautious about trusting his view of his own world.
  
  Take all the crap offered here and sift it together with his self-comgratulatory blog and you probably have a more refined picture of the man - a deeply conflicted soul with as many fears as confidences. You probably have in the man what I observed, a person who desperately wants what he says about himself to be true and, equally as desperately, he wants the truth about himself to be kept on the first layer of that Kincaid painting - flat on the canvas, covered up with many layers of colorful, wishful thinking.
  By In The Interest of Balance on Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 9:18pm

• I see that Indiana and Florida are well represented here and I suspect a few comments are from Kansas. I think I have a unique perspective on the subject of Paul James. I was one of several people Paul talked to upon his retreat from Kansas. First of all, let's be clear, PAUL QUIT. He had lost both the confidence of his staff and had reported to the LBA that he was at a "loggerhead" about how to lead the church forward (from where it was in 2006). That's what he told me.
  What stunned me about Paul's departure was how low he had sunk in terms of recognizing his own person. Paul outright lied to me about events that (he said) had taken place and what people did. I know this because I checked Paul's claims with the people in leadership both volunteers and staff. Most of the things he said people did never happened the way he said or he was the only one who experienced those things. Paul tried to claim people pushed him out but he told me in no uncertain words that he had lost his way (his words) in leading the church. I don't know what he expected other people to do? There were four people on staff and a mortage of $2m. Paul also talked frequently from the pulpit in prior years about taking various kinds of psychotropic "pastor pills" to try and deal with his feelings. (I guess his endless hours of watching "Wife Swap" on TV didn't help.) In spite of all his crying and how much he said he always loved "his" church, we was pretty destructive in the wake of his leaving. A lot of people left the church because of what he said about other people. That doesn't fit with loving the church in my mind. I have helped out around the church some before and after Paul left but I really can't get excited about doing too much after seeing how riftly he turned on people. I feel sorry for him in a way but I dont think that any amount of personal pain or confusion should cause anyone to tear other people down. From what I've read from other people in other places, what did that last guy say, deeply conflicted is the way I would also describe this person. I hope he can lead a church somewhere else but since he's been like this for so long I wonder if he'll change or if new people are getting what the rest of us have gotten.
  By Heartland, as in the Land in the Heart of USA on Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:18pm

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  By I Am A Cloud on Friday, January 1, 2010 at 9:33pm

• from http://himynamesjack.blogspot.com/2008/03/self-righteous-mean-spirited-pastor.html
  
  Self-Righteous, Mean-Spirited Pastor
  
  During this period, I didn’t drink at all. My life was far too full for that. I worked hard all the time, and I continued sending Mona money for a while longer but finally stopped. I sent her relatives a letter, telling them I wouldn’t send any more money if I wouldn’t be allowed to communicate with Mona regularly. They refused, so I stopped.
  
  I spent a great deal of time at church—more than I had ever spent in my entire life. I went to a very conservative church where they made me a Sunday school teacher for ninth graders. The kids loved me. One day during class, a girl asked me, “Mr. Reagan, should I square dance as part of the school curriculum or make a stand for Christ because dancing is sinful?”
  
  Eager to help but uncomfortable that I was being called Mr. Reagan, I said, “Why would you want to look ridiculous in front of everybody in school over square dancing? If I were you, I would just go ahead and do it. If you’re going to make a stand, make it about something important—not something trivial.”
  
  Satisfied with my sagacity, I went on with the lesson. That night, I received a call from Reverend Sanders, the church pastor. “Jack,” he said, “I want to ask you some questions about your position on some critical issues for teens.” Sensing the underlying malice in his syrupy tone, I listened intently as he asked me my position on movies, dancing, cards, and numerous other things. Finally, he said, “What’s your position on mixed bathing?”
  
  Without hesitation, I responded, “I’m against it. I think it’s OK for boys and girls to swim together, but I’m dead set against them taking a bath together!” Complete silence ensued. My attempt to interject a little humor actually made things worse.
  
  “I think we need to have lunch tomorrow. Can you meet me at 12:30?” It wasn’t a request.
  
  At 12:30 p.m., I met Reverend Sanders, a man in his mid-thirties with jet-black hair, pale white skin, and penetrating black eyes. As we sat down, I was very nervous and started to light a Marlboro. Reverend Sanders, in his most ingratiating voice, said, “Jack, it’s alright if you smoke. I’ll love you just as much if you light that cigarette as I will if you don’t.”
  
  “I know. Thanks,” I said and lit the cigarette. Enraged, he seethed with anger as I sat there speechless. He lit into me for smoking in the first place and went on from there with a tirade that would draw approbation from any prosecutor in the land.
  
  Incredulously, I said, “Then why did you say it was all right to smoke?”
  
  In truth, he couldn’t answer. It would have been too telling. At the end of the meal, he prayed and left with the self-satisfied confidence that he had set another sinner straight.
  
  After he left, I was shaken to the core. I had been a born-again Christian for less than six months; but I knew I never wanted to be like this self-righteous, mean-spirited pastor. It bothered me so much that since then I have never been able to tolerate such misanthropy—especially by those who parade their Christianity as their prime asset. I went to that church less frequently and finally stopped going altogether. I became cautious and guarded around church people rather than open and transparent. I remember thinking that Christians shouldn’t talk about loving people if they don’t.
  By Similitude on Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 6:19pm

• at http://www.enynewesleyan.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=65
  
  93 uses of "I", "I'm", "me"
  6 uses of "you"
  
  Please, help me again, how is "team" spelt?
  
  [Word Use Analysis is a free service provided to help you finally live a life that has integrity. (c) (tm) ]
  
  By Word Use on Saturday, January 2, 2010 at 7:11pm

• When Paul James cries, crocodiles sue for unacknowledged impersonation.
  When Paul James counsels, the path of innocents is covered with straw.
  When Paul James speaks, the Library of Lies installs more shelves.
  When Paul James preaches, fudge crystallizes.
  When Paul James advises, clarity suffers a Gaussian blur.
  When Paul James befriends, indignity and obligation are towed behind on a short tether.
  When Paul James promises, betrayal and deceit mate.
  When Paul James coaches, the team devolves to compete against itself, not others.
  When Paul James lends a helping hand, the quantity of work increases.
  When Paul James addresses sin, it’s never an exhaustive, introspective list.
  When Paul James pleads sincerity, career actors attend the clinic.
  When Paul James leads, confusion whorls in his wake.
  When Paul James looks at a map, he thinks something should be done to cover up Florida.
  When Paul James reconciles, recriminations germinate.
  When Paul James watches TV, he wishes that was him.
  When Paul James eats, deep inner pain abates.
  When Paul James abstains, the judging finger wags.
  When Paul James has an original thought
  When Paul James has a casual, inconsequential conversation, a sermon illustration ensues.
  When Paul James reminisces, your life diminishes.
  When Paul James encourages, the victim feels stupid for not arriving at James’ twisted observation as well.
  When Paul James travels, all the world is incited to celebrate his intrepid adventures.
  When Paul James parents, the fabric of the family is sewn into a pocket in which he keeps his unmet needs.
  When Paul James reads a random book, he finds a whole brand new core purpose for life.
  When Paul James lends a penny, a life of indenturement is born.
  When Paul James witnesses masculine feats, he condemns aggression.
  When Paul James witnesses feminine feats, he abhors his own masculinity.
  When Paul James eats a frickin’ hamburger, you’d better by God eat it the way he does or you’re never going to hear the frickin’ end of it.
  When Paul James casts a vision, grotesque ambiguity finds a voice.
  When Paul James interviews a candidate, he searches for the leopard’s spots he’s determined to eradicate.
  When Paul James sounds hopeful, he really is, but in a pathetically desperate way that makes no sense.
  When Paul James plants a rose bush, he thinks God owes him a favor.
  When Paul James discovers a personal preference, you’re diminished for not agreeing with him.
  When Paul James exhorts, Christian perfection is privately confounded by his disintegrity.
  When Paul James reads the Bible, he wonders what Rick Warren thinks.
  When Paul James reads Rick Warren, he wonders why clouds float.
  When Paul James find a good deal, you wish you could ever hear the end of it.
  When Paul James covets something, he resists temptation until he finds a way to rationalize its acquisition.
  When Paul James hosts, his guests never seem to appreciate the depth of his generosity in spite of his best efforts to impress them with what he is doing for them.
  When Paul James relaxes, only Buddha can understand the deep mysticism he experiences, or so he makes it seem.
  When Paul James receives a favor, it usually is almost sort of pretty much what he hoped for at least for the time being.
  When Paul James returns to the scene of the crime, he wonders why his prodigal return is not celebrated.
  When Paul James sees an attractive woman, he recites passages from Cotton Mather sermons until he can gain control over his passions.
  When Paul James thinks about latex, he’s not thinking about what you’re thinking about.
  When Paul James does the math, he doesn’t need no equals sign.
  When Paul James hears the DS speak, he contemplates the inexorable march of predestination.
  When Paul James drives, he’s grateful that speed limits are not a God thing.
  When Paul James wonders out loud, you’d better realize that the Ten Commandments were written in softer stone.
  When Paul James reads this, he’s going to chastise himself for not thinking of it first.
  
  By This Ain't No Leaves of Grass, But The Beer Is Better on Sunday, January 3, 2010 at 3:31pm

• "I wish I were beginning life all over again," said the Idiot one spring morning, as he took his accustomed place at Mrs. Pedagog's table.
  
  "I wish you were," said Mr. Pedagog from behind his newspaper. "Then your parents would have you shut up in a nursery, and it is even conceivable that you would be receiving those disciplinary attentions with a slipper
  that you seem to me so frequently to deserve, were you at this present moment in the nursery stage of your development."
  
  (by J.K. Bangs)
  By Two Can Play That Game on Monday, January 4, 2010 at 10:15pm

• Every man has got a hobby,
  Every poet has some fault,
  Every sweet contains its bitter,
  Every fresh thing has its salt.
  
  Every mountain has a valley,
  Every valley has a hill,
  Every ravine is a river,
  Every river is a rill.
  
  Every fool has got some wisdom,
  Every wise man is a fool,
  Every scholar is a block-head,
  Every dunce has been to school.
  
  Every bad man is a good man,
  Every fat man is not stout,
  Every good man is a bad man
  But ’tis hard to find him out.
  James Weldon Johnson
  
  Sounds like Paul James has been found out.
  
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 2:09pm

• Dastardly dastards bashing a bastard.
  By SwingTown on Tuesday, January 5, 2010 at 7:20pm

• My observation? Paul James is a punk who has accomplished very little outside of bullying people who depended on him. He's deceitful and mean-spirited. For all his rah-rah coaching and instructing, he's just a pathetic burnout whose only accomplishment has been holding on by a thread by stealing the product of other people's work. This rapidly expanding Jihad is proof enough that the man has far more detractors than supporters. We all hope he gets what is coming to him.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 6, 2010 at 9:54pm

• If Warren didn't write it, James doesn't believe it.
  If Rohn didn't command it, James can't conceive it.
  If Maxwell didn't imagine it, James can't lead it.
  
  From DBA / LBA meetings to sermons and Suc U, everything that comes out of James dumbass mouth is purloined from someone else. Read his stupid blog. He sits around contemplating his bellybutton and then treats the experience like he had walked on the moon or cured AIDS. If David hadn't nailed Bathsheba or Cain hadn't killed Abel, adultery and destruction probably wouldn't be on James record either.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 9:46am

• "God's got my back." Paul James
  
  I don't think Paul gets enough credit for reducing the Creator of the Universe to some kind of thug wingman. Well done, PJ.
  By Props, Dog! on Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 9:40pm

• Ask James about Spankys.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 7, 2010 at 9:46pm

• Paul, if I lie about someone, but flee before I can be held accountable for it, am I still perfect? Or, if I sit in meetings and say disparaging things about someone, but they never hear about what I said, am I still perfect? Because I know being perfect is a very important thing. Or if I do something utterly despicable (you know what I mean), but the people who would be offended never (EVER!) find out, am I still perfect? I ask all this because it is kind of obvious what God thinks about this kind of stuff doesn't matter, only what other people think. Write your answer on this piece of toilet paper. I'll use it later.
  By Obeisly, I mean Obsessively Curious on Friday, January 8, 2010 at 10:12am

• Browsing the stacks at Living Word on Schenctady Rd today. I see that Maxwell has a new Leadership book out. I guess we've got more "coaching up" to endure.
  By ugh on Friday, January 8, 2010 at 5:39pm

• I'm trading my Russian wife for a date with Paul.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, January 9, 2010 at 5:47pm

• Paul James - only guy I know who will happily take your strength, tangle it inside out, and use it against you. The man is a solitary piece of work. Jackass.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 10, 2010 at 9:29pm

• This is a very interesting series of comments. May I ask those of you who have contributed here a few questions?
  
  What is the purpose of your comments?
  What is the desired outcome of your comments?
  What is the likely result of what you are doing?
  
  I am not quarreling with the facts underlying your comments. I am simply trying to discover what is the goal of your public (and anonymous) outcry.
  
  I will appreciate you sharing your responses as freely as you have shared your opinions about Mr. James.
  
  
  By TruthSeeker on Monday, January 11, 2010 at 8:53pm

• I like Paul. He seems wise.
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 2:47pm

• Take a guy with Seasonal Affective Disorder and bring him to Northern New York. Good call HQ. Cripes, when does this guy ever stop crying?
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 13, 2010 at 11:59am

• Putz in Putzville putzing with his putz.
  
  There, I said it.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 10:58am

• "When Paul James sees an attractive woman, he recites passages from Cotton Mather sermons until he can gain control over his passions."
  
  Folks, that right there is hilarious.
  
  
  
  By QuoteAFellow.com on Thursday, January 14, 2010 at 8:06pm

• Paul James is the Dane Cook of Wesleyan District Superintendents.
  By Anonymous on Friday, January 15, 2010 at 1:33pm

• Dear TruthSeeker (Jan 11), you ask an interesting set of questions.
  
  As you say, you are not quarreling with the comments on this site. Good for you. I don't think there is much to quarrel with. And I can't speak for any of the other contributors, but the one comment I have shared above was stated because Paul James is a person in authority who has done a lot of harm to a lot of people and still managed to keep his dirty work hidden. I don't think that is proper. James is a public figure who keeps the truth about himself well hidden from people. There are a LOT of comments to that fact on this page. In the interest of truth and fairness these things should come to light. If people dont want to do anything about what a jerk he is thats fine, but at least he should have the truth made known. I'm sure you won't quarrel about that either.
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 9:24pm

• The only thing the guy ever creates is confusion and double-binds. He'll ask you a question and then knee-cap you for the way you answer it. The man's ruthlessness is masked by that syrupy-sweet southern drawl. We've learned to just not answer his stupid inquisitions. What aa jerk. How does this guy exist in ministry and leadership. All he does is cripple people who never saw it coming. Get him out!!!!!!
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 18, 2010 at 12:40pm

• This is Paul James.
  
  
  
  
  No, I don't mean the author of this post is Paul James - that would be false impersonation. I mean the white space after the first sentence is Paul James. Empty as a pocket. I guess I should have used a colon (as Paul would). This is Paul James:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Harumph! on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 4:04pm

• Some of you contributing to this webpage are awfully silly. I have to say, I don't get the humor in your remarks or what there is funny to say about Paul James. I'm going to restrain from using vulgar terms here, but I'll tell you that there is not one good thing I have to say about this socalled preacher.
  
  
  
  Me personally as well as my family have suffered untold misery from this person. What does he do? I have been repeatedly humiliated by Paul James and I can't really even explain, well, I'll put it this way. He acts to me like he is my friend or he is looking out for me somehow. But he always find a way to twist our conversation into some crisis of faith or doubt that I'm suffering. He'll ask me a question or even just hear a comment from me and then before I know it this rotten person is turning me inside out with my own words.
  
  Am I making sense. Does this sound funny to any of you smartalex. Paul is a jerk and it seems to me that his he gets some sort of horrible joy out of pounding on people. What is funny about that? I do everything I can to avoid him but for reasons I can't explain here I have to be around him some. I have pretty much decided not to say anything around him and when I have to be around him I just about don't say anything at all. I wish some of you funny people could explain what his problem is. I certainly don't know what he has to be such a miserable sob to people. If I ever get out of my present situation I'll come back here and tell you who I am. Until then please stop making jokes about one of the sickest people on the earth.
  By Believe me its not funny. on Thursday, January 21, 2010 at 9:06pm

• While this man may have done all of these horrible things, I believe he is forgivable and not only God can do that but so should we. A look at the bigger picture reveals the true problem with the Wesleyan Church and that is their top of line leadership. I can name numerous other incidents of the same ilk in other places that have happened and the upper eschelon turned a blind eye. One shining example is Paul's predecesor, Ed Lindsey. He had no spine and allowed himself to be led around by the nose by cold, soulless leaders who only had their own best interests at heart. When those very same people were exposed for their dirty deeds, they were sent packing but no attempt whatsoever was made to reconcile with the hurt people left in the wake of destruction. Paul has only done what I would expect a human to do, try again. The Wesleyan Church as whole, however, keeps repeating their mistakes. They should be ashamed of their selves.
  By Anonymous on Friday, January 22, 2010 at 8:41am

• Paul James and The Kumbaya Effect
  
  This last post is incomprehensible and irreconcilable with reality.
  
  Yes, Paul James has access to the privilege we all hope for - forgiveness in eternity by a loving God. I'm not sure any of the prior 57 comments - harsh as they may be - argue against that.
  
  The last comment allows that James has done horrible things. Agreed. Where the commentator goes too far is suggesting that we should also forgive Paul James - The Kumbaya Effect or as Rodney King put it, "Can't we all just get along."
  
  The problem is that earthly forgiveness of Paul James has gained nothing. Let's remember, when Jesus refused to cast a stone at the woman caught in the act of adultery (no small irony noted here), He also told her to go her way and "sin no more". If the posts above can be treated as true, Paul has violated human and divine trust at every post where he has served - Indiana, Kansas, Overland Park, Florida, and whatever beast Eastern New York slash New England is. He has never changed in spite of demanding change from his victims at every station.
  
  I would suggest that forgiving Paul James is precisely the incorrect solution, at least we can fairly say that forgiveness has not had the effect of James "sinning no more".
  
  What Paul James needs, other than a swfit kick in the ass proposed above, is what the last post points out is not forthcoming. Whatever leadership is presumed to exist in the hierarchy of the vaunted Wesleyan Central Command, it is certainly nothing more than a presumption. The leadership in Indianapolis is guilty of a great deal. They lack awareness of the problem which is a problem in itself, but given the repetition of Paul James failings and the efforts they have expended to move him to a new set of problems, it is clearer still that HQ is definitely aware of the problem.
  
  That leaves us with the observation that HQ is unwilling to address real problems among the field leadership. In spite of an abiding commitment to parliamentary gymnastics on alternating years, the denominational punjab is demonstrably inept in correcting gross incompetencies at the battalion level.
  
  Across the nation, nay the world, the Spirit-Filled and Entirely Sanctified Wesleyan Network has practiced little excellence and enjoys impoverished results. Church plants are abyssmal, church growth negligible, and what was once a doctrinal cornerstone - sanctification - is as rare a commodity as fiscal responsibility is in Washington DC. Most districts and churches that even bother to cite their doctrines and history - and most don't - usually celebrate their centuries old successes in Abolition and Temperance movements rather than any Christian practicalities such as soul-winning and reconciliation.
  
  Which brings us back to ouor guest of honor, Rev Paul James. In point of fact, James is living on his laurels. He grew one church in Warsaw, Indiana - close enough to HQ that it has earned him enduring praise in a meritocracy that is inept at ongoing accountability. Paul James was disruptive in the Kansas district, at the church in Overland Park, at his lay-over in Florida, and now in his new inexplicable appointment in that region south of Nova Scotia. Indeed he has be forgiven, repeatedly, but he has neither changed nor grown from his sins and forgiveness. So those of you who advocate forgiveness must do so only to make yourselves feel better about being good people rather than developing church leaders who reproduce good people. You are gravely - as in the pit of death - mistaken as to both the process and the product of your naive wish.
  
  I do not hope to be as severe in my recommendations as the violent treatment of Paul as some have advocated above. I sense a lot of anger toward Paul from those who have suffered from him. Given the failure of the denomination to manage Paul, the count of these victims is only likely to increase.
  
  I suggest that Paul be given a desk job in a small cubicle on Olio Road. Let him sit and learn what a complex job leadership really is and not just reading a Maxwell book and working out his inner demons on the head of his underlings. I don't think he has ever picked up on that. Evidence suggests.
  
  I know Paul James personally. He has a pleasant demeanor and an unpleasant personality. I can only take him in small doses with long periods of recovery among healthy humans. He's not a bad person, he has bad habits and perspectives. He needs forgiveness and even more he needs discipline and accountability. Until he receives both, we are going to continue seeing more of these hostile and unhelpful posts. I don't blame people for voicing their hostility to Paul - he has earned it after all. I blame a rigid and self-righteous denomination for not correcting problems but reproducing them.
  
  Until then we are all just singing Kumbaya. Pass the marshmallows.
  By AJD on Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 1:51pm

• All I've seen so far is a lot of insinuations of wrongs, and yet not one single proof regarding dates times and what was the charge, adultery, thief, lewness, what? be specfic. Have you confront him or are you afraid to follow the MT 18 prinicple or even notified his boss and why did you wait so long to bring your gripes to light. Just asking.
  By Searching on Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 6:56pm

• Dear Searching, did you find 5th grade grammar and spelling a little too difficult?
  
  It seems to me that there is a great deal of personal and specific testimony offered in this fast growing Jihad. The post on Thursday, December 31, 2009 at 12:18pm seems especially detailed. I can completely understand why many people prefer to hold onto their details. Sharing specifics would also likely reveal the author of the complaint. Since there has been no effort to hold James accountable, why in the world would someone put themselves at risk of even further recrimination from this scoundrel?
  
  But I can personally guarantee one thing, if anyone wants to push this into a court of law, where details will be required, I have a two-inch thick folder of proof of all these claims and much, much more than that will once and for all expose Paul James to be exactly what he is accused of being.
  
  This is unseemly material and I really don't covet the opportunity to bring everything to light. But if anyone wants to start throwing poop around, count me in. I know what I've got and Paul James knows exactly what is stacked up against him. If you feel like defending Paul James you might start with having a long heart-to-heart with him first. His anonymous defenders are to be pitied for their ignorance of what the man is really like.
  
  I suggest you sit back and watch the fur fly. If you don't enjoy it, stay out of this website which is by definition a critical place. And if anyone, ANYONE, wants to take this to the next level, let's buckle up and get serious.
  
  
  
  !
  By Had Enough on Saturday, January 23, 2010 at 8:31pm

• To Had enough.
  
  Wow, golly G wiz gomer!
  I wonder who has a two inch folder on you? You're so perfect. Never done anything wrong, hurt anyone, lied or cheat on your spouse, physically or mentally I bet.
  Your awesome.
  By Searching on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 6:06am

• To Searching,
  Shut up. Paul has gone above and beyond where anyone- let alone a spiritual "coach" should. If you are incapable of making new arguments simply do not post anymore... and "your" spelling/grammar really are terrible.
  
  To Had Enough,
  At least some of that folder's contents should find their way to Wesleyan HQ and the ENY District Board. That is their duty to handle.
  By SecondOpinion on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:09am

• Dear Searching,
  
  "Golly G" is a modified form of taking the Lord's name in vain. That's still a sin.
  
  Had Enough never claimed to be perfect or to have never done wrong. Why bring that up? "Perfection" is a claim unique to certain religious groups. So yes, let's play. Do you claim to be perfect? I guess that whole Calvary thing was unuseful to you.
  
  "Your awesome"? What does that even mean? You are (you're awesome?) God alone deserves the appellation of Awesome. I would think describing a human as having attributes held only by God is unwise.
  
  Finally, betting is poor stewardship and clearly it involves coveting your neighbor's wealth. It seems to me that you are a very reckless individual with enough challenges to resolve that you don't need to be sticking your nose in here.
  
  Several comments lately have focused on seeking for Paul James to receive some accountability from the establishment that keeps promoting him. If someone is withholding information in hopes that Paul's accountability is handled privately or corporately instead of publicly, I would think that is a good thing. Are you just prurient, wishing for Paul's dirty laundry to be aired here, not privately?
  
  Your posts recently reveal the true nature of the "Paul James Factor". This topic has received dozens of comments from people who are factually from different parts of the country and therefore have know Paul James at very different times in his life. All of them point to a deeply troubled man. Rather than dealing with those issues, you are attacking the messenger. This is not new and in Paul James' case it is definitely typical.
  
  If you'd like to attack someone, go ahead and start a jihad on them. This topic is about Paul James.
  
  In the future, if you must return, please try not to sin as you comment. It dishonors you in the eyes of man and God. Set a good example for all of us to follow. Or else it might appear that you rethink your position on Calvary.
  
  Wishing you the best.
  
  
  By A Different Opinion on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 4:53pm

• Searching, I don't know what you think you are searching for, but I think everyone knows you are not going to find it here. Would you mind terribly not wearing us out with your PMS? Ok? Thanks.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 5:47pm

• I think Searching has point of view that should be considered. I don't have a 2" folder on anyone, but if you think you can do something about Paul, I'll tell you what I know, what I experienced. My daughter and I go to the playground at WH Lake Shipp Park every Tuesday morning. It's public. I could talk to you there. Let me know if that's really what you want.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 6:40pm

• Dear Searching, you said "follow the MT 18 prinicple or even notified his boss". That is a perfect summary of the problem. There is no OR. Do what the Bible says. There is no "or tell his boss". You proved that if you don't want to follow the Bible that you think there are other ways of dealing with things. Wow, how good it must be to have so many options other than following the Bible.
  
  
  
  By It's Obvious on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 6:47pm

• Does anyone still living remember what this Jihad is about?
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 7:52pm

• sEArching, I've got three words for you
  
  lesbian
  
  
  sex
  
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 7:54pm

• Paul James on Twitter and LBA wives attending other churches. This is the golden age.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 8:28pm

• To Anonymous,
  Rather long drive across country.
  
  To Obvious
  The solution is always to confront, but Biblically. If the proper channels are followed then there’s resolution. Why didn’t the KS, DS do something about it?
  
  To A Different Opinion
  You stated:
  “Several comments lately have focused on seeking for Paul James to receive some accountability from the establishment that keeps promoting him. If someone is withholding information in hopes that Paul's accountability is handled privately or corporately instead of publicly, I would think that is a good thing. Are you just prurient, wishing for Paul's dirty laundry to be aired here, not privately?”
  
  I would certainly want this handled in a correct manner, but isn’t all of this, from the profane to the religious zealot, being air here?
  
  I believe that Second Opinion has the answer.
  At least some of that folder's contents should find their way to Wesleyan HQ and the ENY District Board. That is their duty to handle.
  
  
  By searching on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 9:07pm

• Rather long drive across country.
  
  To Obvious
  The solution is always to confront, but Biblically. If the proper channels are followed then there’s resolution. Why didn’t the KS, DS do something about it?
  
  To A Different Opinion
  You stated:
  “Several comments lately have focused on seeking for Paul James to receive some accountability from the establishment that keeps promoting him. If someone is withholding information in hopes that Paul's accountability is handled privately or corporately instead of publicly, I would think that is a good thing. Are you just prurient, wishing for Paul's dirty laundry to be aired here, not privately?”
  I would certainly want this handled in a correct manner, but isn’t all of this, from the profane to the religious zealot, being air here?
  
  I believe that Second Opinion has the answer.
  At least some of that folder's contents should find their way to Wesleyan HQ and the ENY District Board. That is their duty to handle.
  
  
  By Searching on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 9:10pm

• "being air here"
  
  wtf????
  
  
  EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 9:37pm

• I'm laughing.
  
  This is exactly what Paul James does to people. Look at the post that started this Jihad. On Aug 15, 2008 Eric said that Pastor Paul James of the Wesleyan Church "turned churches in on themselves". That is what is happening here. People who have encoutered Paul James are so broken from that relationship that they cannibalize each other rather than doing something constructive for the kingdom.
  
  "Searching" has decided to speak for the defense of Paul James. But instead of actually doing anything helpful to rehabilitate James, Searching is merely attacking other people who have posted negative comments about James. This is the classic "two wrongs make a right" humanism that has left the church without a credible witness in the world.
  
  I feel sorry for those who have been wounded by Paul James. I know up close what that is like. I do not feel sorry for all those who follow in the path of "Searching". You can't fix the problems Paul caused by attacking those who point out those problems.
  
  Please stop.
  By Let Us Reason on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 9:57pm

• Searching (Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 9:07pm) said the KS, DS (?) should have done something.
  
  I guess that solves the identity of that person.
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 10:03pm

• To ALL
  Without proof and confrontation nothing is resolved and they are just accusations, which results in what is happening now instead of rehabilitation and forgiveness.
  
  To Let us Reason
  You wrote:
  “I feel sorry for those who have been wounded by Paul James. I know up close what that is like. I do not feel sorry for all those who follow in the path of "Searching". You can't fix the problems Paul caused by attacking those who point out those problems.
  I also grieve with those who have been hurt, but is this the place to do it in? You can’t fix a problem unless the right people know it.
  I also have been hurt by those that are look up to, but I never aired in on the net. I apologize to those that felt, I was attacking those who have been hurt, not my intent, only to make you think, is this proper way to handle such matters.
  
  Signing off
  Searching
  
  By Searching on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 5:50am

• Searching said: "I also have been hurt by those that are look up to, but I never aired in on the net."
  
  You show over and over again that you really have no competency with communication skills.
  
  But, since you like to bet, I'll bet you that your silence "on the net" has not been matched by silence elsewhere. Your mean-spirited gossiping "offline" is just as destructive as anything said here. I don't know you, but I know your type.
  
  I'm not in Kansas so I don't have to deal with you, but I know your type and I know how you fuel your own self-loathing by controlling others. Your sudden and attacking appearance on this website pretty well sums up the sad story of your life.
  
  You are defending a man who has wounded people all across this country and you are attacking people who have been wounded by him. That doubles the pain. At least it does for me.
  
  If you disagree with our methods, then kindly say so and prove yourself to be the Christian you outwardly claim to be. I don't play that game you Christians love - acting sweet outwardly while attacking from behind every chance you get. That's exactly why I could never wear that label you all so proudly wear.
  
  But I will tell you one thing for sure. I told "leadership" about the stuff Paul James did to me. All I got was a frickin pat on the head and told that we all have our warts. Then I watched Paul James keep moving upward and onward with no "rehabilitation". I guess forgiveness is all anyone cares about. He's on his way alright and sinning more.
  
  So Searching, you are loudly making this whole problem worse. I'll be if someone gets raped you find a way to blame them. You are the shameful one. Yes, full of shame.
  
  5:50am?? Next time your night shift ends just go to be instead of annoying us.
  
  To all the rest of you, I'm sorry this has happened. Sometimes we don't always do the best thing or find the best places to do them. But Paul James has been a very public person all his life. It is clear from all the things said that he has hurt many of you. Does someone want us to think that no one in leadership every knew? Ha Ha. I don't judge any of you for sharing your pain here. It never did any good telling people who could do something about him. All I suggest is be true and factual. And that is mainly what I have seen.
  
  May you all find peace wherever peace may be found.
  
  
  By Let Us Reason on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 10:04am

• Ugh, will you two work out your lovers spat elsewhere? Get a room and fight it out.
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 10:35am

• It seems to me that the person who signs "Searching" is actually trying to get more crap on Paul James posted here. He/She is always asking for proof to be made public.
  
  Searching is trying to bring out more hate on James.
  
  A lot of games going on here.
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 11:14am

• Anyone know where I can go to find a Jihad on W. Paul James of the Wesleyan Church???
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 12:36pm

• 
  
  
  Paul James is a completely contemptible person.
  
  
  Safe to say this Jihad has reached its logical end?
  
  Let's all go back to weeping about Haiti.
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 1:45pm

• I hope Searching and Reason can resolve their lover's spat.
  
  This is what James does to people. Rather than teaching forgiveness and reconciliation, he creates an enviroment where people attack one another.
  
  This is classic. Paul James is what Eric first said he is - a d-bag.
  
  
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 7:46pm

• Formerly, I was accused of not following MT 18... while I was one of the only ones who suggested utilizing the proper channels. If those in positional spiritual authority do not take action then it is on their heads. Not yours any longer.
  
  Despite some accusations I am not advocating an "airing" but a discrete accountability- which has been painfully absent up and to this point and time. If people are merely holding evidence "just in case" then you are doing the rest of those who do not hold 2" file folders an injustice.
  
  Please do the right and biblical thing. Do not follow the examples of those Christians who would "attack from behind" but rather confront this massive (pun intended) issue head on.
  
  If you need to know who to contact the Wesleyan Church directory has all the GS contact info and the DBA is on the ENY site. It's not that difficult.
  By SecondOpinion on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 9:19pm

• Send it TO them???
  
  Where do you think I got the evidence in the first place?
  
  Do you actually think they do something with the complaints they receive?
  
  Let's review the facts. Paul James has twice been allowed to be a DS.
  
  It would seem self-evident that the GS is not willing to take action on what has been presented to him / her (as the case may be).
  
  This one's going to be settled in the streets of Laredo.
  
  But here's the good news. At least weekend night shift Kansan Searching has shut up. Let's rejoice in the small things.
  
  
  Awesome.
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 10:21pm

• Um, Let Us Reason and A Different Opinion, I hate to break it to ya but I found a typo in each of your own writings (one was Jan 25 10:04 last paragragh, the other Jan 24 4:53). May want to do a spell check when you are so vehemently making fun of someone else making mistakes in their communication. This is my point. Making fun of poor grammar is not what this site is meant for. Paul screwed my family bad and we've had to live years watching nothing happen. Why is someone who has mishandled the church's money, bought porn on a district credit card, and belittled all who are closer to him than the nearest pew not at least be offered some counseling for figuring out some of his deep-seated issues from the Appalachians and whatever strange family dynamics of his past. I am not judging him as a person. That's God's job alone. But as fellow believers, we are called to check one another. Sin (especially public) is a poison that needs to be removed from the Body (I meant to capitalize that). I'm not advocating that the person should be removed, but the poison. If Wesleyan leadership will not move, then Paul's demise will certainly be a self-destruct one day. Otherwise, I guess the Lord will weigh his life accordingly as He will do with us all. I do personally know several people who hope to get to watch it happen, though. I've followed this thing from nearly the beginning and can't believe how many comments it's attracted (especially recently!). Never knew there were so many of us.
  By crazy days on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 11:47pm

• Dear Crazy Days. Thanks for sending me your post before adding it to the Jihad on Paul James. Here are the changes I suggest:
  
  "I hate to break it to ya but I found"
  
  need a comma before a "but"
  
  "Paul screwed my family bad "
  
  adverb required: screwed badly
  
  "porn on a district credit card"
  
  District should be capitalized as it is a proper noun
  
  "Why is someone..."
  
  This sentence needs to end with a question mark.
  
  "self-destruct"
  
  self-destructive
  
  Hope that helps. Don't hesitate to send future posts.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:14am

• 
  Is that what this has become? A tit for tat grammar ping-pong game? For crying out loud (yes, which is a long-forgotten slang term for "for Christ sake"), either stay on topic or beat it.
  
  Whether Crazy Days, Searching, Second Opinion or anyone else likes it, this is a website where people post their anger at an individual.
  
  If you want Paul James "to get better" copy this webpage and send it to him, his mommy, HQ, or whomever. And good luck. Helping Paul James find his inner torment clearly hasn't been helped by either drugs or counseling. Every step of the way he has been notified of the complaints and concerns against him and it has netted what - he's a DS again?
  
  If you're into therapy, turn on Dr. Phil, go away and shut up. If you have been wounded by a real jerk, Paul James, then post your experience here.
  
  You tree-hugging, kumbaya, hand-wringing liberals are draving me crazy with your "let's focus on getting help".
  
  S H U T U P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
  By Incredulous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 1:59pm

• I hate to bring a dose of smelling salts to all of you, but consider this. Nothing you do to agitate about James is going to work. Nothing ever has. You may as well save your keystrokes. And no amount of reconciliation or forgiveness has brought about any harmony with him. His path across the country during his career reads like an ekg. He's always one step ahead of the coroner. I'm calling it like it is. The guy is bullet-proof and all you are doing is squabbling with one another. I wish you all peace, the a sober voice says you, none of you, are on the path to finding peace here. Blessings.
  By ElCid on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 3:14pm

• 
  
  Please don't stifle conversation here. I love to hear Searching cry.
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 7:13pm

• Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. Col 4:6
  James 1:26
  If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself.
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 8:18pm

• Well, "Anonymous", you clarified that. I never knew if you're supposed to abbreviate books of the Bible or not or if the citation precedes the verse or follows it.
  
  Yeah, job well done. Thanks Searching, it's good to know you're still out there. When does the night shift start?
  
  
  Don't the rest of you love these drive-by versings? Again, this is fully representative of the Paul James category of "Christian". A whole lot of shouting "THOU SHALT" and not much quiet, honest introspection. There is a very sound reason these people think they are perfect; they only judge others, not themselves. The approach has high integrity, but sadly no reality.
  
  For the record precious, I don't consider myself "religious". That's your label and that's your hang up. I had the misfortune of dealing with James in a secular circumstance. Reading these posts, it sounds like he was as big an asshole inside the parish as out.
  
  I gotta go to bed. Up early in the morning to catch some more slings and arrows.
  
  
  By Hamlet on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 9:10pm

• A Poem
  About Beer
  
  I was good today
  So I get to buy some beer
  I just found out
  What IPA means
  So I think that's what I'll get.
  
  Ever since I kicked crack
  I wanted a mellower mellow
  I know that I'm still hooked on something
  But the lows are closer to the highs.
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 9:42pm

• So after months of not taking time to plan any artist dates whatsoever, I found myself in the middle of a delicious day-long artist date yesterday in which I
  
  reflected on what worked well & what could still be improved in 2009
  
  mapped out my plan for 2010 in shimmery metallic ink
  took a long bubblebath & read the new issue of Body + Soul
  
  started reading The Little Stranger while enjoying a lunch of chunky tomato soup topped with mozzarella followed by a big mug of hot chocolate with marshmallows
  
  napped
  
  drove up to Twinkletown with le co-conspirateur for an eyebrow wax
  
  spent the evening at favorite Twinkletown cafe eavesdropping on conversations and writing a scene for the NOLA story
  
  came home & watched the latest epi of Flash Forward while enjoying a peppermint mocha
  painted my nails with black cherry polish
  and wrote more of the scene for the NOLA story before going to bed
  
  Wowza!
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:13pm

• Well, "Anonymous", you clarified that. I never knew if you're supposed to abbreviate books of the Bible or not or if the citation precedes the verse or follows it.
  
  Yeah, job well done. Thanks Searching, it's good to know you're still out there. When does the night shift start?
  
  
  Don't the rest of you love these drive-by versings? Again, this is fully representative of the Paul James category of "Christian". A whole lot of shouting "THOU SHALT" and not much quiet, honest introspection. There is a very sound reason these people think they are perfect; they only judge others, not themselves. The approach has high integrity, but sadly no reality.
  
  For the record precious, I don't consider myself "religious". That's your label and that's your hang up. I had the misfortune of dealing with James in a secular circumstance. Reading these posts, it sounds like he was as big an asshole inside the parish as out.
  
  I gotta go to bed. Up early in the morning to catch some more slings and arrows.
  
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 10:35pm

• Come back to me, Searching. I heart you. Slap me around some more. I thrive on abuse.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 10:52am

• Everybody, I'm sorry. I posted that beer poem in the wrong place. My bad. Sorry to intrude.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 2:37pm

• Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. Col 4:6
  James 1:26
  If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself.
  
  
  I can easily think of a good two dozens instances where The Reverend Paul James has stomped on these verses with hobnailed boots. I'm glad Searching posted these and put a fine point on what James is so completely contemptible.
  
  
  By RightOn on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 at 8:38pm

• A lot of foolishness here. I'm not sure if all the anger is right, but I can sure tell you that Paul wounded me in ways that I'll never forget. Can he be fixed. Not sure about that either. But I think he should be stopped if he can't treat people like humans. I'll stop there.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 7:56pm

• W. Paul James :: Slap Emu Jaw
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 9:49pm

• ok, we done here?
  By Anonymous on Friday, January 29, 2010 at 8:22pm

• agreed
  By Anonymous on Saturday, January 30, 2010 at 3:18pm

• I havent been to church since I don’t remember when
  Things were goin’ great ‘til they fell apart again
  So I listened to the preacher as he told me what to do
  He said you can’t go hatin’ others who have done wrong to you
  Sometimes we get angry, but we must not condemn
  Let the good Lord do His job and you just pray for them
  
  I pray your brakes go out runnin’ down a hill
  I pray a flowerpot falls from a window sill and knocks you in the head like I’d like to
  I pray your birthday comes and nobody calls
  I pray you’re flyin’ high when your engine stalls
  I pray all your dreams never come true
  Just know whereever you are honey, I pray for you
  
  I’m really glad I found my way to church
  ‘Cause I’m already feelin’ better and I thank God for the words
  Yeah I’m goin’ take the high road
  And do what the preacher told me to do
  You keep messin’ up and I’ll keep prayin’ for you
  
  I pray your tire blows out at 110
  I pray you pass out drunk with your best friend and wake up with his and her tattoos
  
  I pray your brakes go out runnin’ down a hill
  I pray a flowerpot falls from a window sill and knocks you in the head like I’d like to
  I pray your birthday comes and nobody calls
  I pray you’re flyin’ high when your engine stalls
  I pray all your dreams never come true
  Just know whereever you are, near or far, in your house or in your car,
  wherever you are honey, I pray for you.
  I pray for you
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, January 31, 2010 at 10:41pm

• Withdraw from me that I may have a little cheer. Job 10:20
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 at 9:26am

• My Dear Searching,
  
  I see from the webstats that you still visit here often, but don't post anymore. Have you found what you were searching for?
  
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, February 6, 2010 at 7:31pm

• Yes.
  By searching on Sunday, February 7, 2010 at 6:44am

• He threatened to pee on me.
  By Anonymous on Monday, April 5, 2010 at 12:34pm

• At IWU in the 80s, we called slutty girls skags.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, July 8, 2010 at 12:21pm

• He's a cat. Gotta wonder how many lives he has left. He has fucked up more than his share of churches and districts. When he's got done with me I was stacking boxes at Best Buy. Thanks for the coaching me up jackwad.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, July 17, 2010 at 11:32pm

• So I'm stuck having lunch at Gus' Hot Dogs in Watervliet with this jackass and he proceeds to tell me how to eat my damn hamburger. Do this, do that, slice it this was, not that way. Holy crap. Do all midwesterners act like this? Guy is a dumbass in every other way as well. EVERY other way.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, September 25, 2010 at 11:37pm

• I have known Paul for over 30 years. Has he made mistakes? Yes! have I? Yes! Have you? Yes!
  Paul may have had some serious blunders but I fully believe that the intent of his heart has always been right. The majority of the comments here only serve to show just how serves to destroy it's own. The "Word" says, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creation. Old things are passed away; behold, all things become new." If Paul or anyone else is "in Christ", the past is gone...(passed away, dead). He is a new person. Forgiveness is either real or it's not. Please church, quit shooting your wounded. Wes Gillespie, Forest, Virginia.
  By Wes Gillespie on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 at 2:56am

• Holy Cow. This jackass' latest blog is classic!
  
  http://northeastlifecoach.blogspot.com/2010/09/its-journey-thats-important.html
  
  No better example (well, no better example since his wife shrieked at him and told him to get laymen to help him get his chores done in advance of his daughter's visit and then he called the whole thing some kind of shadow of heaven) of how depraved this guy's leadership is. James thinks that making an irrelevant (if not absurd) goal is somehow praiseworthy. Then, when he accomplishes this gnat-fart quest, he acts like he landed on the moon and inspired a nation of wannabes to find their inner-Paul.
  
  Is this what passes for leadership? Is this what passes for "church" leadership? Sounds like not all of his minions are as enamored with PJ as he is himself.
  By Anonymous on Monday, November 8, 2010 at 10:46pm

• Mr. Gillespie, an email direct to you was rejected, so we'll post our response to you here where you first posted your voice of support for Mr. James.
  
  About this "new man" concept, Wes, to say "the past is gone" doesn't actually speak to present corruption. In fact, it ignores it. If someone wanted to say as Rev E.V. Hill did, "I once was, but I'm not now" that would be fine. But for a man to live in his corruption, to dwell in it, it is impossible for him (or others) to say "the past is gone". It is factually incorrect. It is chronologically incorrect. It is spiritually incorrect.
  
  For you to declare that someone else is "a new man" in the face of the present facts is to participate in a) enabling the sinner, and b) joining him by complicity.
  
  If you feel compelled to engage in defense of a person, you might do well to ascertain the full breadth of his life and not just the fraction he chooses to present. Unless you were present when objectionable behaviors were observed, you should remain silent on the matter to which you cannot testify. Otherwise your comments only serve to increase the hypocrisy, rather than diminish it.
  
  You hold yourself out to be a man of spiritual authority. Before you pontificate, you should demonstrate. You understand? Claiming a moral high ground is a precarious promontory to which a man can aspire.
  
  You humble servant of no significance,
  
  A man of Polish decent.
  By A Man of Conviction on Tuesday, November 9, 2010 at 10:53am

• I kind of have to agree with Polish Man. Cant figure out Gillespie's angle on the subject. Does he know James? Good question tho' when does a person become a new man? At salvation? At repentence? Everymorning? A lot of the testimony is that James is *still* behaving badly. No arguments to the contrary.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 at 5:23pm

• "Paul may have had some serious blunders"
  
  Wow, I'm sure Pastor appreciates your confession on his behalf. I guess the way you phrased it you're not denying any complaint made here. Grateful for that at least. And I'm just wondering, do you "have" blunders or do you commit them. Sounds like they happened to him. Poor fool, just walkin along and a blunder fell on him. Who could hold that against him. And the last guy said the truth, sounds like Paul is still blundering. Thanks tho Wes.
  By Anonymous on Monday, November 15, 2010 at 10:49pm

• Have you guys seen the traffic stats on this page? ISP reports are telling about who is reading and contributing to the topic.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 at 11:28pm

• he's a pisher
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 at 7:15pm

• Nov 25, 2010 and this dork has his tit in a wringer again here among the frozen chosen. Thankful we're about to see his tuck-tail heading south.
  By Had Enough on Thursday, November 25, 2010 at 9:35pm

• I gotta say I love reading this guys blog. Heres the latest.
  
  "I picked up the phone and called Dr. Borden. Miraculously I got through..." (at http://northeastlifecoach.blogspot.com)
  
  Really, thats a miracle? Im no bible student but isnt walking on water or feeding 5000 a miracle? Kinda puts Jesus in his place doesnt it. I mean who did Jesus ever try to call and miraculously get through.
  
  Thats PJ for ya. Forever crying over spilt milk and dumbing down miracles so that basic electronics now qualifies. You my man.
  
  
  By Anonymous on Friday, November 26, 2010 at 8:49pm

• chutney of squirrel
  By Anonymous on Saturday, November 27, 2010 at 11:15am

• Looking forward to District Court, Home Boy! We'll see how your lies play out in front of a judge.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 10:44pm

• I read these comments and I'm broken-hearted.
  
  Brother Wes tipped me to read this site and I'm not sure right now if I should have or not. I have known Rev Paul for well in excess of two decades, maybe closer to three. I will grant you that the most commen way of describing Paul is deeply conflicted. I don't say that with any glee or meanness. For the sake of persperctive, let me give you some insight on that situation of his life.
  
  Paul's father is a loving and sincere man. He has served the Lord so faithfully and so diligently over a lifetime of committed service. He encouraged and inspired many pastors to perservere in the Lord's work. This also meant to a large degree he was absent from the home. Paul's mother also a dear godly woman pulled double duty as both mother and father in the home. She is a strong woman, a very strong woman. She did her best to raise the children and I for one think she did a noble effort. For reasons none of you naysayers will ever understand Paul was dropped off at that outofstate Christian high school at a formative point in his early teen years. Given the turmoil in the home and the challenges the young Paul was experiencing I think the James parents made the best decision they know how to make. How all this impacted Paul in later years is not his own fault. A weak father and a overbearing mother is not uncommon. Add that to spending his teen years with a bunch of other outofhome teens. This is just not a very ideal situation for a child to develop adult skills. It would be wrong to blame Paul for this. He did what he could.
  
  Yes, it is true. Paul and his two brothers both chose ministry as an attempt to earn the approval of the father who was absent from their lives. Mother James constantly challenged the boys to be like their father who they barely knew. What I am trying to say here is that Paul is a good man doing the very best he can to live in a way that deals with the way he was formed. I just can't believe the hate directed at him for who he is. Has anyone actually said he is a bad man.
  
  There are some rude comments up above here about how Paul goes about his business. Let me tell you something. There is so much excellent writing and speaking work being done I think for a lot of people it is a waste of time to reinvent the wheel. I'v e set in on some of Paul's success university session and he delivers some pretty good wisdom gleaned from a lifetime of reading. He may not do a lot of original stuff but in this day and age does he really need to? And what about all the good people who are better today because of the good work Paul has done? Can you throw that away?
  
  It seems to me that there are most people on this page who are trying hurt Paul. I sense that you are hurt yourselves. I ask you to be as gracious to Paul as you wish he should have been to you. Isn't that what is right? If Paul has hurt you you should only do what is right. I'm not saying he can't help himself, but there are reason for why his heart is the way it is. Let's recognize that and have some compassion.
  By Voice of Compassion on Monday, November 29, 2010 at 10:33am

• The Apostle Store called. They want Paul's good name back.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 at 3:20pm

• Dear Voice,
  
  I'm not sure if I got your overall tone and message right. Are you clearly expressing that Paul should be forgiven for what he does because his mother is a battleaxe and his father was a wimp? I'm sorry to use such strong words but I want to get to the heart of the matter.
  
  Thanks
  
  Find The Answer
  
  
  By Find The Answer on Thursday, December 2, 2010 at 10:16am

• To Find The Answer.
  
  I'm not sure if you got me right. I did say she was overbearing, I don't think I said anything like battle-axe - your word. I did not mean to be uncharitable. Just trying to provide some sense of what life in her home would have been like. I don't think name calling is appropriate.
  
  And I don't think I said anything like wimp, his father. What is this about.
  
  All I was to do was provide some way to understand the way Paul developed and why as I say he is deeply conflicted.
  
  Don't think for a minute I am trying to tear him down. I am not in the destroying business as are some others on this page. Disgusting stuff.
  By Voice of Compassion on Thursday, December 2, 2010 at 10:16pm

• Paul James is like a 19* year old chick dealing with directions. She knows left, right, up, down. Nothing else. All of life is self-referential. You can't tell her to turn East because she lacks perspective outside of herself. She doesn't even know where the sun rises unless she's watching it come over the horizon. Any effort to teach her points on a compass are defeated because SHE is not a compass. "That thingy with the spinning needle thingy, is that what you call a compass?" The only ability she has to comprehend her world is where she is at the moment.
  
  That is the perfect analogy of Paul James and his broken comprehension of the world. His world begins and ends with him. He lives on a pier disconnected from shore. His only perspective on the entire world is the way in which _he_ interacts with _it_. Some writers above have mentioned excerpts from his blog. They are well worthy of a careful reading. Paul is only moved by what he does or what others do for him. He is entirely devoid of the ability to perceive the world in the third person - how Sally interacts with Sandy. Those of you who have had occasion to deal with James know this well. Life flows to him, from him, or through him. He knows no other dynamic.
  
  It's a desperately sad commentary on a man who's life is allegedly involved in helping others. Again, read the man's blog. Someone up above here took the pains to do a word count on one entry. The words "I" and "me" were profoundly well represented.
  
  I'll add another perspective to this little metaphor I'm working up here. What is "truth" to our 19* year old dufus lost in a maze of neighborhood streets. Truth is nothing. She is only here and she doesn't know where here is. Since she doesn't know where East is or have any conception of East, East does not actually exist. James is the same exact way. The only truth is his momentary impulse. If he tells you something, say he makes you a promise or commitment, that promise or commitment exists only to the extent that you are present in his world. When you are absent from his tiny, finite island, so also is his promise or commitment to you absent. This explains a great deal. It explains the allegations of infidelity and porn-mongery. It explains the allegations of misuse of funds. It explains the virtual revolving doors on all the places he has ever administrated employees. It explains the disgruntlement that we see vividly displayed in this rather disturbing website. James is a the moral-dimension equivalent of Chicken Little. Every morning brings a newly reordered world and the sky is always falling.
  
  What's the cure? Daddy has to tell his 19* year old gum-smacking nincompoop that it's time to grow up and deal with the world as it is, not as she imagines it. Only problem is, in James world, there is no Daddy. He won't listen to anyone because he perceives himself as the final word on matters of authority. 19* year old skirt eventually gets tired of getting lost. Or maybe she gets a GPS and pays a machine to think for her. James has no option. He's been rescued and promoted so reliably that he has no perception of his own lostness.
  
  I'll let some of these other voices try and diagnose the origins of James problem(s). I don't think they've hit on it yet. For healthy adults, James is a man to be avoided if at all possible. He is not healthy himself and he does not lead others to health. He does not know the way.
  
  
  * All references to 19 year old females is purely fictional. The mental incapacity to understand compass points knows no age limit.
  By Anonymous on Friday, December 3, 2010 at 2:42pm

• murmlycrappleflap
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 7:43am

• 15,900 words on this topic. More has been written about James than has been written by him.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 8:08pm

• I hate the lazy son of a bitch slob, who f*ckn preenz himself but can't lift his bony arse to clean the flat half the time or water the plants or even wash the dishes. Why? Cause he spends all his time on facebook and skype chatting to some American girl he has yet to meet and whom (he thinks) will lovingly divest him of his virginity. Prick.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 9:15pm

• Hmmmmm...funny how all can criticize and NOT write down their names! Wes Gillespie has more courage than anyone who made comments. I've always went by the saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing". If you can't sign your name then maybe you shouldn't write your comments,
  By Vicky Smith on Saturday, December 4, 2010 at 11:17pm

• 
  Well said, Vicky. You don't think anyone has anything to fear, do you? Like the pastors who are under Paul's district? Some of the comments above seem to be from people who are currently subordinate to Mr. James. Sounds like they are frustrated. I wonder what else they could do besides write anonymously. Wondering.
  
  By Tom Wharton on Sunday, December 5, 2010 at 10:14pm

• "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness.”
  
  Miss Vicky, you must be terribly disappointed in what's his name.
  
  
  
  
  By Trooth Teller on Monday, December 6, 2010 at 9:26am

• what is going on here. wes g claims paul indiscretions should be swepped under the rug. voice of compassion says that paul is a victim of his upbringing and we should have compassion on his situation. dec 3 says that paul just lacks a foundation in truth. heres what all of you are missing. you know paul. you know how consistent and calculating he is with his meanness. many of you have written of the personal pain this horrible man has inflicted on you. everyone here is welcome to give paul a way out if you want but nothing will erase the pain he has willfully caused to people who were close to him. the guy has tickled the ears of thousands who just sat in pews and walked out the doors. those are his fans. the people who know the truth of his evil are the ones close to him. it sounds like a lot of the people who are writing here are people who have more than a passing knowledge of him. sounds they know him personally and spend some time with him. it also sounds like this has been happening over a very long time. he's been in ministry for over 30 years and all along the way people are saying consistent things about him. i say he doesnt change. i say he is the same. i say that in the mouth or 2 or 3 witnesses the truth is made known. i say that paul is who these people say he is. as for me i have personally felt the sharp pain of thinking i had a friend who instead became my greatest critic. and by critic i mean meanspirited negativity and putdowns and judgements. sounds familiar to alot of you doesnt it?
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 8, 2010 at 6:15pm

• I have to admit I've been watching this forum for quite some time. I've been thinking about whether I sould say anything or not. Oddly, when Vicky Smith wrote something up above here I realized I had to say something.
  
  Vicky I'm sorry if this is not a nice thing to say but I don't know I don't think silence is always the best solution. I will ask you to respond after I say this and I will carefully consider what you say.
  
  My experience with Paul is a whole lot like what a lot of other people have said here. I'm not a bad person. I really do try hard to live a good life and to honor God. I can't say how I know Paul now but I come in contact with him a bit. At first I thought he was just a good gyu who really wanted to help me. He says the things he does and says is coaching. But I can tell you i have been brought to the point of tears sometimes when he critices me. I wish I could explain it. It sounds like others know what it is like. He jsut put things in a way that I feel like a failure. And like I said I'm really not a bad person. Paul tells me that my shortcomins are a decision I make to live that way. That's hard to believe because I don't want to disappoint my family or my church. Paul says that I fail because I don't take all the right steps. The point of it is I WANT TO. I'm not resisting him or the wise things he says. I ceartainly don't argue with him. I'm not like that. He's a wise man. But when I've heard from him I feel really terrible.
  
  Is this a not nice thing I shouldn't be saying? I will apologize if I am being mean. But a lot of times I feel so hurt by Paul I can't believe I am really that bad a person. Well I think you understand. I'd like to hear from you.
  By Anonymous on Friday, December 10, 2010 at 10:38pm

• You know what this makes me think? Dec 10, you know that Gecko commercial of the sniveling pussy on the therapists couch? That's you Pussy. Listen to this whining. Paul makes me feel bad. Jackass he makes every one feel bad. That's what he does. Sounds like he does it a lot to you cause you take it so well. Man up cry baby.
  By Lee Army on Saturday, December 11, 2010 at 9:29am

• out shopping, I'll clean this up later
  By Anonymous on Sunday, December 12, 2010 at 12:24pm

• The dudes a soul crusher. Wesleyans should sponsor a monster truck in his honor.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, December 12, 2010 at 9:54pm

• My head hurts from the feeling of being beaten
  
  beaten down, beaten up….
  
  My head hurts from sleep deprivation
  
  I’ve always been a fan of sleepless nights with you
  
  Tonight it struck me, your fist
  
  ….again
  
  This time it hurt
  By Anonymous on Monday, December 13, 2010 at 7:57pm

• Paul James, you owe me an apology. I'll never get it because you really don't believe in any of the things you say and tell others to do. That's part 1 of why you owe me an apology. Part 2 is that you intentionally inflicted emotion harm upon me. I thought I was a decent person until you spent 2 years telling me what a crum and a dissappointment I was. My life has never been the same. You have no soul.
  
  Wes G, that's why Paul shouldn't be forgiven. He'll never changes.
  By You Know My Name on Thursday, December 16, 2010 at 5:18pm

• Hey there, You Know My Name, sorry for the infliction of emotional harm you suffered from Paul James like so many others. I'm not apologizing I'm just saying I am sorry it happened.
  
  This is the what we call the Wesleyan Wiggle. And Gillespie said it best. Anything Paul ever did even if it was an hour ago has been hidden away. Apparently Paul can't even see it he's so forgiven. That's how all these men of God can claim their perfect. Its like a shell game I saw in New Orleans once. You always need to repent and apologize for something. They already been forgiven and can't even think about looking backward. Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle
  
  Don't you wish you had a magic stone you could rub. Everytime you do something wrong you just rub your little stone and poof its gone. Paul has one of those. The rest of he scolds and rebukes for our shortcomings and then he coaches us up like we were soccer kids ate recess. O I wish I had that stone to rub instead of all these bruises from the stones he threw at me. Afterall wiggle wiggle wiggle he is perfect. There are no sins in his past. And all you haters who say he has an ongoing problem with pronography or he stole money from the district of he got entangled in some relationship or that he is a deceiver, none of that is true because its all in the shadow of the cross even the thing I saw him do an hour ago. wiggle gone
  
  I say this jihad needs to kick it up a notch.
  By Soul Dust on Sunday, December 19, 2010 at 6:03pm

• If letting him bang me while i'm wearing reindeer antlers and a painted red nose isn't the christmas spirit, I dont know what is
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, December 19, 2010 at 10:14pm

• Girls-only wine night turned into a sloppy drunk lesbian orgy again
  By Anonymous on Monday, December 20, 2010 at 11:27pm

• I'm very concerned about doing this. On a unrelated issue, I was searching for someone who is named on this site and I stumbled into this very confusing mess of thoughts. I'm not going to comment on all that has been said, but except say that I have similar concerns. I'd like to talk with someone who has truly been involved in this problem with this person. I don't know how to do that. I have to stay unkown because of my work situation. You know this. I am worried about the things I have read because I see all signs of this now and I am worried about people who are getting hurt. Can't say more. Don't know what to do but I need to talk to someone.
  
  JB
  By JB on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 at 9:07am

• JB, You're not being very clear. Do you want to talk to some one about a work situation in general or do you want to talk about a situation related to Paul James?
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 at 1:31pm

• How could we be dating if we never held hands?
  We held on to the bedposts but we never held hands
  You got inside my body but you didn't reach my heart
  We raced right to the finish but I guessed we missed the start
  There's no way we're dating 'cause we never held hands
  
  How could we be dating if you never took me out?
  No whisper of sweet nothings
  You just made me scream and shout, ooh
  There was no love ambition but you taught me new positions on the way
  The Jackson Pollock, The Praying Mantis, The Moon Landing
  You may know my body but you don't know my soul
  You want the doughnut but all you're going to get is the hole
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 9:47pm

• I can't say much. I probably should say nothing. Here's the deal I have a relationship with someone who deals with Paul James regularly. The stuff that is written about in this page is something I hear about often. I really can't say more in public. Was hoping to talk w/ someone directly.
  
  JB
  By JB on Sunday, December 26, 2010 at 11:18pm

• JB, I am limited in terms of what I can do or say, but if you want to discuss this situation you can email me at jihadpauljames@gmail.com.
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 3, 2011 at 1:01pm

• Have you guys noticed how stratelaced James is until he gets in the bathroom and turns into a 14yr old boarding school imbicile?
  By Anonymous on Friday, January 7, 2011 at 7:06pm

• Email was set up to communicate with JB. On top of that some stunning comments have been shared by people who read this page but don't want a public trail. Summarized comments will be posted asap.
  By email on Monday, January 10, 2011 at 7:57pm

• We highly recommend the 200 or so regular readers of this topic refer to this page: http://www.enynewesleyan.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=55 James ends his post with this statement "No longer will we be satisfied to be an island of disease, but rather we choose to become an island of health." Yeah, he just called his district a bunch of diseased maggots. But boy howdy, he's gonna get 'em all healthy again.
  
  In his latest comments Paul James demonstrates how he lacks any original ideas or initiative. I have contacted Dr. Paul Borden and made the following assessment of how the year will end:
  
  "Congratulations on your recent contract with The ENYNE Wesleyan District. Undoubtedly you are excited by the prospect of turning around an admittedly disease-ridden group of churches in a minor US denomination. I am making a prediction. In December of 2011, your contract will end and not be renewed. You are going to receive a letter from District Superintendent Paul James. The first paragraph is going to be filled with platitudes of thanks for your service. But the interesting part of this letter will be paragraph two. In that second paragraph, James is going to point how you were a) not clear in your expectations, and b) you did not follow up with clear analysis in a timely manner which the district superintendent could act upon. There will be another criticism of the fact that being so distant, you probably did not fully appreciate the local circumstances of front-line pastors. And you will wonder what this actually means and what you might have actually done wrong. Your only mistake was being happy to take this assignment and entering into a relationship with Paul James. You stand at the end of a long line of people who have been assaulted for Paul James personal short-comings. You took the money. I have no sympathy for you."
  
  In the end this sad chapter will prove itself to be neither "miraculous" nor a "God-thing". This is how all things are with Paul. Primped up like a homecoming queen and date-raped before the sun rises.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Monday, January 10, 2011 at 10:32pm

• Is a church supposed to be an island whether diseased or healthy?
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 10:20am

• This despicable collection of hate is a disgrace to the Christian community. There is absolutely nothing a single man could have ever done to warrant this kind of personal attack. Whoever is behind this is a person beneath contempt and likely beyond the reach of the Gospel.
  
  I know Rev Paul James personally. He is a man of character and devotion. He has made better the lives of hundreds of people including my own. Whatever James might conceivably have done to warrant these attacks, he has done far more good as a compassionate shepherd.
  
  I suggest that whoever is instigating these attacks should take a quiet moment to look in the mirror and ask yourself if your life is unimpeachable. This calamity must stop. Please stop this disgraceful foolishness.
  
  
  By DRT on Monday, January 17, 2011 at 9:55pm

• Eric starts this jihad by calling James a "mastadonic prick".
  
  Dude, that's not the word on the street.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 at 2:39pm

• I'm not at all sure what is going on here. I am a writer and routinely check the internet to see where my articles are referenced. Today I stumbled into this mess. I have never visited here before and I certainly did not write the comments on October 26. I know of Rev Paul James. I have nothing to say about his character other than I hope to never have a conversation with him again. I am offended by my inclusion in this nonsense. I suggest all this should stop. If anyone has a question about this I can be contacted with email onthrgt@juno.com
  By Wes Gillespie on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 9:36am

• any of yu lidl muthers ever stuff a bottle of wyn up in yur love tunnl? hu?
  By curious on Friday, January 21, 2011 at 3:08pm

• I'm drinking with 3 chicks and 1 gay dude. 100% chance I'm getting laid and 75% chance I'll enjoy it.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, January 27, 2011 at 9:48pm

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  By John Wesley on Monday, January 31, 2011 at 9:06pm

• merde
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, February 2, 2011 at 4:52pm

• So after I was tied with a feather boa he left me there with KFC and cherry coke
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Thursday, February 24, 2011 at 12:43pm

• Apparently the Jamester ain't gettin the job done - Students at Wesleyan University in CT have produced a super-viral vid "I HAVE SEX" (http://wesleying.org/2011/03/09/breaking-wes-students-have-sex/). Of course, unmarried kids having sex is nothing new to the good pastor.
  By Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2011 at 6:21pm

• Ugh. I swear, if I weren't infused by the restraint of the Holy Spirit himself, I'd punch Paul James in the mouth. Once again, he has proven to be discourteous and condescending. I don't know why any of us put up with him.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, March 19, 2011 at 3:43pm

• Paul Jameses twat smells like an abandoned slaughterhouse.
  
  
  By gastriasis on Saturday, April 2, 2011 at 9:48am

• 3 letters to GS about this jerk and not a single response. What do they expect happens next?
  By Anonymous on Thursday, April 7, 2011 at 10:03am

• The Wesleyan brand has never shone so brightly. Paul James rides into town, demoralizes pastors, discourages LBAs, and leaves town self-satisfied that he has helped mortals embrace their frailty. Thanks Central Command.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, April 9, 2011 at 3:45pm

• The Wesleyan "U" in CT, is not part of the Wesleyan Church, nor ever was.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, April 10, 2011 at 6:14am

• Is there something in the Discipline that require DS to tell local pastors when his wife is in her period?
  
  Could someone look that up?
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 at 12:57pm

• re APR 10 - - - Hilarious! Of all the thousands of words on this page this dumbass objects to something about a college in Connecticut. I dont think anyone ever said Weslyan U was owned by the only right-thinking denomination in the whole free world.
  
  Anyway, thanks for proving that James is the dooch he is accused of.
  By Anonymous on Monday, April 18, 2011 at 5:19pm

• Goals. Goals. Goals.
  
  Have you ever noticed how much Paul James loves to talk about goals? Everything is about goal setting. Paul practically takes his victims through Freudian analysis and forces them to identify goals which they had never contemplated before nor truly desire.
  
  Then the real manipulation begins. Paul recently did this with me and it was only after a month of phone calls from him and a month of panic attics that I figured out what was going on.
  
  To achieve *my* goals, Paul made me write out elaborate plans, steps, milestones, timelines,and resources that would indicate my progress to my goals. He left me to concoct this witch's brew of organizational masturbation on my own, but then I had to submit all this to Paul in writing. That's when the misery began.
  
  The next thing I knew Paul was constantly looking over my shoulder and *holding me accountable* to this crazy master plan that he bullied me into drawing up. I would get random calls from him and he clearly had my written plan in front of him. He would go down my list of step (toward goals) as if he was ordering from the menu at IHOP. All the time demanding an explanation for why I hadn't accomplished one step or another and what was I going to do to catch up with the plan I had committed to. That's what he actually said.
  
  The crazy part is that Paul calls all this Success University. He constantly quotes Jim Rohn and Rick Warren, but if I ever ask him for where the Bible talks about this kind of thing, he gets that sideways smirk and asks me whether I want to grow as a person or not.
  
  Personally, I read passages like the Fruit of the Spirit and the Beatitudes and I don't see anything about goal setting at all. In fact there is a lot of scripture that admonishes against making plans for tomorrow. My heart tells me if I could just learn love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, and self-control that I would be pleasing to God and a good leader of my congregation. Instead, because I don't quote or follow worldly wisdom, Paul James puts me down. Is that kind?
  
  This Success University thing strikes me as a gimmic for Paul to be able to interfere in my life. I don't hear anything coming out of Indianapolis that suggests this is what DS are supposed to be doing. That's not my problem though. I just want Paul James to stop putting me down for not following his plan for success. From things I've heard and a few things I've read here that seem credible, it doesn't sound like Paul has exactly created a great legacy for himself. When I ask him about prior work he prunes up.
  
  Anyway, I imagine some other who read this page and many who don't will know what I'm talking about. If you do I'm sorry for you. You know the grief I'm talking about.
  
  sorry for you
  By Personal Experience on Monday, May 9, 2011 at 10:55pm

• faithfulness, gentleness
  By Anonymous on Monday, May 9, 2011 at 10:57pm

• Looks like someone else has worked for Mr James:
  
  http://justinhalpern.tumblr.com/post/5227114741/the-5-worst-bosses-to-work-for
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 at 1:28pm

• There is a Paul Rowe here in Pensacola that has a Wesleyan Church. He looks much older than the photo of James and his wife from up north. But the attitude sounds like the same guy. Rotton teeth, claims to have multiple degrees....
  By Kevin on Friday, July 1, 2011 at 2:37pm

• The first heresy is the deeds of the Nicolaitans. The word Nicolaitan means “to conquer the laity” or “victory over the people”. This was addressed to two of the seven churches, Ephesus and Pergamos, and God spoke both times that He hated it! Claiming leadership unscripturally, creating hierarchies, layering people in categories, "hearing" the Lord for God’s people! A caste system, per se, and not God inspired.
  Scriptures condemn these concepts for Spirit-led followers. Jesus himself faced it in the Pharisaical system of his day. He told his disciples to do as they said, but not to do as they do. They--like preachers and pastors of today--love the fame, respect, power, and financial security associated with being “Reverend so and so..."
  
  Jesus didn’t come to start another religion. God wanted contact with His creation. The new order is direct access to Father, not of one man being subject to another. Followers of Jesus need no man to teach them, for the Holy Spirit is given to lead each person into truth. The ministries of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Eph 4:11) were gifts from God. They were for assistance and encouragement, and were not to come between the believer and his God. In the Christian walk, there is only one master: Christ Jesus.
  
  God pronounced judgment on Ephesus and Pergamos, calling for them to repent, or He would remove the candlestick (light) from them. And He has. What light shines from the religious world, anywhere? The Nicolaitan mind set still lives, most blatantly in Catholicism, but it exists everywhere. Dogma, doctrine, legalism, tradition, rituals, icons, etc., and the condemnation that comes with dead teachings pollute the earth with darkness. Ironically, these things not only hide Christ from the world, they hide Him from his own people!
  
  The Church is supposed to be a family, not an audience. All are equal, being members of a corporate expression, the Body of Christ. Even the foundation of the apostles and prophets (Eph 2:20) was not about a lordship. So how could anyone of lesser rank be a master? Imagine believers depending on each other and gathering together spontaneously (like the early Church) with no need of buildings other than their homes? What, no pulpits? Who would be hurt by this? Answer: the ones getting paid. Stage left, the second heresy.
  
  The doctrine of Balaam, referring to the Old Testament prophet-for-hire. He did not value obedience to God, and therefore spoke from his mind, manipulating purely for own gain. He could use truth and twist it to produce the ultimate result for his fame and fortune. His "doctrine" lead to the deception of God's people, as is referred to in the Revelation to the church at Pergamos. While pretending to be sincere, he preferred the flesh walk, and put a price on God's word. Although a prophet of God, he was unrighteous and unfaithful. That was his legacy. In the Revelation, God warned Pergamos to repent or He would come quickly and fight them with the sword of His mouth (an empowered Word against them)!
  
  These Balaam types have been around a long time and exist today. They work the pulpit for a good following, speaking what the people want to hear or whatever they feel is the most popular concept to bring in a good offering. They have no personal convictions past prostituting themselves, reveling in the power. They may have originally listened to the voice of God, but their own fleshly desires lured them into a place of self-gratification and self-worship.
  
  How many men of God would we still have in pulpits today if the pay was small or non-existent? I know a few humble, sincere men and women of God who can’t make a living from their congregation, but there is no resentment, because they love the Lord. That is what ministry should be. And if the real Church--the ecclesia, was flowing correctly, there would be no pulpits anyway. But for those still trapped in the status quo system, beware. There is yet another heresy, named after a not so lady-like female from the Old Testament.
  
  To the church in Thyatira came a warning from God about the spirit of Jezebel. This spirt was a direct reference to the Jezebel of old, a false prophetess (gender reference female, for soulishness), and her purpose is to seduce God’s people. This soulish administration appeals to the flesh walk, and is “one” with the world (spiritual fornication).There is much to be said here.
  
  Popular philosophies that tickle our old Adamic nature are enticing, but direct us away from the true path of being conquered and changed into the image of Christ. Not our will, but His be done. Allowing familiar spirits (insights, prophesies not of the Holy Spirit) to mingle where only God’s spirit should move is an abomination. Plenty of psychic fairs exist in their own arena, but they have no place in the midst of the brethren. (2 John 7-11) The arena of flesh (soul) and the arena of Holy spirit cannot fellowship. The first must submit to the second.
  
  An intoxicating message, the gospel of prosperity, has multitudes deceived. The attack is not on prospering, but the hunger for it, the placing of it alongside of our relationship with God. Its a distraction--one of the "cares of this world". I've heard preachers say that God wants the best for us. This is absolutely correct, but God's focus is our spiritual attainment. Material and financial gain are more for social status and comfort, and have nothing to do with bearing spiritual fruit. Jesus said it was "easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Mark 10:25). It's about how badly we desire wealth. It's about where our heart is. It's where we are gazing. God will surely care for us, but not as an indulging sugar-daddy.
  
  Charismatic speakers and leaders (wealthy ones) mesmerize the ears of congregations. The emphasis looks harmless because it has a basis in truth, but is a mixture of soul and spirit. Truthfully, these people may have started out following God, but got distracted by the lusts of this world: appetites, greed, ambition (1 John 2:16). I believe we would be appalled to know how many persons--even leaders, have never experienced a true conversion to Christ. Not their fault, but it hasn’t happened. And we cannot let them influence us.
  
  Jezebel is manipulative and sensuous. She reigns in God’s stead and revels in the power thereof. But God will have the last word, and His word of judgment is pretty strong. Unless her followers repent, they will be cast into great tribulation, and her children (movements birthed from her) will be killed. (Rev 2:22-23)
  
  Can we not see that these heresies speak of ministries controlled by the soul of man? It can be such a subtle thing to be deceived by the power of our soul--which is our mind, will, emotions and intellect. When our personality becomes dominated by our ego (self life, old Adam, dead man), we stop following Christ. We are to put on the mind of Christ, continually. We are to be overtaken by His mind to direct us into all truth.
  
  Let our women be silent in the assemblies! Our soul (female) rebels against the advances of our spirit (male) while He seeks to overtake us with love, draw us closer, and take control of our destiny. Women would run the world and women would run the pulpits. Soul is not the power of God unto salvation. Even though many have seen the light, these heresies still abound, deceiving the multitudes who aren’t listening to that still, small voice inside them; the distractions and noise of the world drown it out.
  
  Since God hates these heresies and will rid the world of them, we better move to higher ground to avoid the great destruction unfolding (now) on the administrators of these things. While God loves the people, He hates the spirit behind them, and His word will not return void. Organized Christianity: gatherings dictated by rank and carnal order--quenching the Holy Spirt; shepherds being paid by the sheep; ambitious, manipulative leaders, speaking with carnal discernment. Sounds like something right out of The Revelation.
  
  
  Read more: http://thenewfaceofgod.blogspot.com/2010/10/7-heresies-thriving-in-christianity.html
  By Anonymous on Monday, July 11, 2011 at 10:48am

• that prominent family in the church, is the daughter knocked up yet?
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2011 at 4:17pm

• I am somewhat confused and concerned about some events that have transpired in recent months. In some circles, there is quite a bit of buzz about this webpage and the insinuations contained herein. I followed through on some of the specifics and personalities mentioned in here. I have personally interviewed "Eric" who launched this webpage. In the midst of all this, the infamous "file" appeared in my mailbox.
  
  For the snarky defenders of Paul James who have done their drive-bys on this webpage, you might want to hold your tongue. According to a wide variety of credible sources, you are not defending a saint. Far from it. At this point, I'm not going to confirm or deny any specific accusations, but the general tone of this webpage is on target. And that is why I am puzzled. Denominational leaders in Indianapolis are quoted in this file as holding reservations about the perennial District Super. And still, they advance and promote this man. In reference to James, one leader stated, "The evil you know is safer than the evil you don't know." EVIL. How poor is this denomination that it settles for "evil" leaders? That's why I'm puzzled.
  
  The evidence suggests that Paul James is a morally bankrupt individual. I wouldn't trust him with either my money or my wife. Beyond that, and the comments are rife with this, Paul James is not a respected church leader. He has a long record of leaving churches and districts in worse shape than he found them. Clergy under his tutelage have lodged three decades of sincere and believable complaints. I personally know two clergy in his present district who are contemplating *leaving the ministry* rather continue to be humiliated by James.
  
  The Wesleyan Church has demonstrated no interest in restraining James in spite of their rock solid evidence that he is a spiritual hazard. For that reason, I am Puzzled.
  By Puzzled on Thursday, August 11, 2011 at 12:02am

• Wesleyans build (bigger than life men) and stick with them. #1 Earle Wilson G.S. From Albany n.y. church and has stepped in over D.S. head many times in last 20 years and screwed the pastors in Albany. Wilson stepped all over Lindsey(old D.S.) many times. Lindsey stood up and closed Champlaine districts (CHAM-PAIN)camp ground because he was leaving the next year. The people ( group that had always been trouble and had screw several pastors borrrower money from a retired pastor Ed E. from vermont. $200,000 . they pay $1000 a month of interest for 3 years not touching the principal. He makes $36,000 off them. Good return.the camp is pitiful and less and less people involved each year. a friend went this year and it was sad. james spoke there and didn't draw a crowd. they sent james to Cham-pain to clean it up and he has a free hand. It will be a good fight because there's a group i woudn't want to mess with. ask anyone who ever been in Cham-pain and had a dispute with the northeners. Lets sit back and laugh.
  By Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2011 at 4:08am

• some of the pastors have worked with james in other district and gave the low-down on him. james is frustrated that some guys won't budge and give up their church and move on. The non-producers are a group that chuckles behind his back led by the ones that know "HE CAN"T FORCE ANYONE TO LEAVE. one pastor with a church of 50 said my town has 300 . what other city church has that high percent going to it? James backed off. he's even stuck with a woman pastor that won't move and others that know him and aren't afraid. so it's no picnic there believe me. The moral of the story is "Paul, When you're cleaning up dodge don't forget the "BAD" guys have guns too. GOOD LUCK
  By Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2011 at 4:46am

• Although it seems that Wesleyans can't write, punctuate, or spell, at least it is nice to see the two recent entries - probably from the same guy.
  
  The truth is Paul James is a bad character. He's made a career out of bullying the weakest and hiding from the strongest. Can't imagine this is what Kingdom building looks like, but what do you expect from a defunct denomination. Whatever happened to Perfection?
  
  I'm CURIOUS that there is no recent defense from the weekend, night-shift nurse in KC. Cat got your tongue?
  
  By the way, you NE boys, remember Paul's last address? Don't you love the way a smirk swells up on Paul's face when he manages to eek out a four-syllable word like "incongruous". It's like he single-handedly invented the light bulb. What a buffoon.
  
  
  Indianapolis, are you truly satisfied now?
  By Anonymous on Monday, August 22, 2011 at 3:39pm

• There's no "James" in "team".
  By Anonymous on Friday, August 26, 2011 at 10:04pm

• I'm dreading tomorrow worse than a lobotomy - with PJ it's about the same thing.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:27pm

• I want to kill myself.
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 5, 2011 at 8:14pm

• Paul's got 2 women pastors he'd like to flush down the toilet. Their churches R going to die and all he can do is watch. No one just "MOVES" in that district because a nerd from the south says it time. (HE"S NOT A HAPPY CAMPER). That district has pushed many pastors out who have started to grow churches because they weren't wesleyan enough. Take 50 years of them doing that and send in Paul the Hero. HA HA. Most of the churches are on the skids, so what harm can he do? At least up there Paul's ego can have it's own zip code.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 2:05am

• Paul's transformation plan that the churches are
  TOLD TO DO". Glens falls church 100 people to 50 people in 2 weeks. (THAT"S TRANSFORMATION). Selling the building and Paul is saying it's the poor pastor's idea not his. WHAT a MESS(That's just one he started).The Denominations goal is to take 50 bad churches and end up with 20 good ones. They got the right man 4 the job in Paul. The districts real problems stem from yrs and yrs. of sweeping sin under the carpet. Many retired (SOME in WEsleyan village have kids outside marriage and other crap that never been taken care of and plenty of district knows about it. That districts been "DIRTY" 4 alot of years. THat's why they sent Paul BUT< dirty and dirty don't make clean. Some of the "DIRTY are (not all just some ) S. Thompson(GAY) Minkawitz( girlfriend got caught) Bruso(Mr EGO) Finley (endless) T Bogosian(endless) Lawrence. Ed E. from VT> ask around about these guys. Then ye got ole Paul.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, September 8, 2011 at 3:36am

• Anybody got a guess on why Paul James would have a profile on SeniorPeop​leMeet.com? Says he's a widower. Did wifey suddenly die?
  By Curiouser on Sunday, September 11, 2011 at 5:35pm

• THere is just enough information in these posts to recognize that some are from current pastors. I also have been disappointed in the leadership of the district and get the need to vent. However, could I remind you that you bear the image of Christ and therefore should be respectful and be careful not to spread false witness. I have been uncomfortable with some things I've witnessed with Paul but nothing that raises to the level of evidence. If you do have specific facts, then you should bring them to the district board or general super (even if anonymously). If you don't feel that has been helpful then send copies to all the pastors. I believe that would be the biblical way to handle this Also, there is enough misinformation in the posts to make me wonder about those who are posting. For instance, he is not trying to push the female pastor out and she is not refusing to budge. If anything, he is overly supportive of her and she has blinders on and believes what he tells her. Also, you should be very clear in your heart that you are not just jealous that others are getting more attention. If you are truly doing your job as pastor then you have nothing to be jealous over Some get their reward here and some there.
  By Disappointed on Thursday, September 15, 2011 at 7:18pm

• Well lookie what we have here. Jihad on You is not exactly the Wesleyan message board. But even on this outpost on the internet, the truth about PJ has come to light. He is a cowardly bastard who manages by innuendo and manipulation rather than speaking man-to-man (or woman as the case may be). The fact that people are airing their laundry here indicates one clear fact - nobody else will listen. Indianapolis has no heart, no brain, and no balls to once-and-for-all shut PJ up. They don't care about souls, just church buildings, or they wouldn't let this jackass ruin yet another district.
  
  For all you pastors who are gagging on PJ's garbage, too bad for you for putting up with it. You don't have much courage either. PJ is not a miracle worker. He a lousy DS and he's a lousy pastor. He's a lousy husband and a lousy father as well. [Well established facts.] Why you let this mouse of a man ruin your life is your fault. Get yourself some gonads and stop taking his crap. You shrinking violets have no excuse.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, September 24, 2011 at 1:33pm

• I'd like to ask you New Englanders a question. When Paul was here in Indiana he was a pompous ass and we, the church leadership, make repeated appeals to the DS and to HQ - all to no avail. Have any of you suffering pastors attempted to notify up the chain brass about your problems there? Have you talked to the GS directly? It sounds like you're damned anyway, why not ask for a second opinion on your plight.
  
  There is a lot in this page about Indianapolis ignoring complaints about Paul. Frankly I believe it. But I'd like to hear directly from some of you about your efforts to take some of the stink off his shit.
  
  What's the word? Have you tried reaching out?
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 26, 2011 at 10:24pm

• from Sep 8 "Some of the "DIRTY are (not all just some ) S. Thompson(GAY) Minkawitz( girlfriend got caught) Bruso(Mr EGO) Finley (endless) T Bogosian(endless) Lawrence. Ed E. from VT> ask around about these guys."
  
  None of these people are listed in the District Directory http://www.enynewesleyan.org//files/District%20Directory%202010.pdf
  
  What's going on???
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 26, 2011 at 10:34pm

• Unbelievable... Have you seen The Life Coach's Sep 7 blog post? First line "Across the years I have struggled with taking time away from ministry." Holy shit. Poor Paul James. He just such a committed leader that he has to force himself to step out of the picture for a minute. PJ, that's called Narcissism out here where the rest of us live. Read over this Jihad page Mr James. Do you really think people's lives are better when you're around? In reality when you're on the job you're stealing money, visiting strip clubs, or drooling over some parishoner's wife. I'll bet you one of your favorite pies that the pastors of your district breathed a deep and welcome sigh of relief when you got your lard ass on that plane and headed south for vacation. You miserable self-centered wretch. Why the hell do you lead your blog with how hard it is to take a day off? No. Body. Cares. This reminds me of the time your daughter came to visit and your wife harangued you about getting the place fixed up so you went out and hectored enough pastors (under your supervision) to get your own damn chores done. You know, the only line from Rick Warren you don't quote is "It's not all about me." Take a clue from your patron saint and shut the fuck up. No one is interested in your shitty life.
  By Anonymous on Monday, September 26, 2011 at 10:51pm

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  By Anonymous on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 at 11:52am

• Anybody in ENYNE care to comment and clear up some of the misinformation cited above????
  
  
  By Anonymous on Sunday, October 2, 2011 at 10:08pm

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  whazzup bitches?
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Saturday, October 8, 2011 at 10:07pm

• I like this post from Jan 3
  
  When Paul James cries, crocodiles sue for unacknowledged impersonation.
  When Paul James counsels, the path of innocents is covered with straw.
  When Paul James speaks, the Library of Lies installs more shelves.
  When Paul James preaches, fudge crystallizes.
  When Paul James advises, clarity suffers a Gaussian blur.
  When Paul James befriends, indignity and obligation are towed behind on a short tether.
  When Paul James promises, betrayal and deceit mate.
  When Paul James coaches, the team devolves to compete against itself, not others.
  When Paul James lends a helping hand, the quantity of work increases.
  When Paul James addresses sin, it’s never an exhaustive, introspective list.
  When Paul James pleads sincerity, career actors attend the clinic.
  When Paul James leads, confusion whorls in his wake.
  When Paul James looks at a map, he thinks something should be done to cover up Florida.
  When Paul James reconciles, recriminations germinate.
  When Paul James watches TV, he wishes that was him.
  When Paul James eats, deep inner pain abates.
  When Paul James abstains, the judging finger wags.
  When Paul James has an original thought
  When Paul James has a casual, inconsequential conversation, a sermon illustration ensues.
  When Paul James reminisces, your life diminishes.
  When Paul James encourages, the victim feels stupid for not arriving at James’ twisted observation as well.
  When Paul James travels, all the world is incited to celebrate his intrepid adventures.
  When Paul James parents, the fabric of the family is sewn into a pocket in which he keeps his unmet needs.
  When Paul James reads a random book, he finds a whole brand new core purpose for life.
  When Paul James lends a penny, a life of indenturement is born.
  When Paul James witnesses masculine feats, he condemns aggression.
  When Paul James witnesses feminine feats, he abhors his own masculinity.
  When Paul James eats a frickin’ hamburger, you’d better by God eat it the way he does or you’re never going to hear the frickin’ end of it.
  When Paul James casts a vision, grotesque ambiguity finds a voice.
  When Paul James interviews a candidate, he searches for the leopard’s spots he’s determined to eradicate.
  When Paul James sounds hopeful, he really is, but in a pathetically desperate way that makes no sense.
  When Paul James plants a rose bush, he thinks God owes him a favor.
  When Paul James discovers a personal preference, you’re diminished for not agreeing with him.
  When Paul James exhorts, Christian perfection is privately confounded by his disintegrity.
  When Paul James reads the Bible, he wonders what Rick Warren thinks.
  When Paul James reads Rick Warren, he wonders why clouds float.
  When Paul James find a good deal, you wish you could ever hear the end of it.
  When Paul James covets something, he resists temptation until he finds a way to rationalize its acquisition.
  When Paul James hosts, his guests never seem to appreciate the depth of his generosity in spite of his best efforts to impress them with what he is doing for them.
  When Paul James relaxes, only Buddha can understand the deep mysticism he experiences, or so he makes it seem.
  When Paul James receives a favor, it usually is almost sort of pretty much what he hoped for at least for the time being.
  When Paul James returns to the scene of the crime, he wonders why his prodigal return is not celebrated.
  When Paul James sees an attractive woman, he recites passages from Cotton Mather sermons until he can gain control over his passions.
  When Paul James thinks about latex, he’s not thinking about what you’re thinking about.
  When Paul James does the math, he doesn’t need no equals sign.
  When Paul James hears the DS speak, he contemplates the inexorable march of predestination.
  When Paul James drives, he’s grateful that speed limits are not a God thing.
  When Paul James wonders out loud, you’d better realize that the Ten Commandments were written in softer stone.
  When Paul James reads this, he’s going to chastise himself for not thinking of it first.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  By Anonymous on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 6:41pm

• "I am very conscious when I’m on the road and tired, or in a meeting with a church board, that I’m just an instrument in God’s hand."
  
  We all agree, Paul, you are a tool.
  
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, November 1, 2011 at 10:41pm

• There is so much hate on this page. Althouh I understand it it also makes me sad for all the negative energy. Im not angry with Paul J. Im hurt. I always felt myself to a positive and hopeful person. I had the misofrtune of Paul J coaching me. I thought it would be a good idea for someone to help me strengthen my weak areas. That;s not what happened. Paul focus on my weak areas alright but only embarassed me for having them. Every time we talked thats all he wanted to talk about. I finally left the group after 7 weeks of practically humiliation. Thats why all the hate and anger above is so sad. Isnt there enough bad stuff in the world? Not sure if Paul need our help or if he can be helped but saying terrible things isnt going to change anything.
  By Anonymous on Monday, November 7, 2011 at 11:12pm

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  You ever feel like you need to let just a little gas pass only to realize your sphincter let something more robust through? You just PaulJamesed yourself.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2011 at 7:08pm

• It's thanksgiving day, Paul. So go fuck yerself.
  By Concerned Citizen on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 at 11:25pm

• "you're very kind"
  
  
  #gag
  By Anonymous on Thursday, November 24, 2011 at 10:25am

• It is not true that the district is dirty. Most of the names mentioned are guys that got caught years ago.The district board has been faced with some accusations concerning some of the above mentioned. One accusation was being handled by Vermont child protective because it involved a child in foster care in Vermont. There was an out of court settlement and the records were sealed so the district could do nothing. The only other case I am aware of is an accusation that was confronted by then D.S. John L. John returned to district board saying the accused threatened a lawsuit if district persuid. D.S. John was going to pull credentials but, sadly died of a heart attack that week. The matter was dropped but other old accusations came up in next months concerning the same man. With the threat of a lawsuit and the fact that the man was not an active in the district but, was a chaplain for the state the new D.S. would not persue it.Kind of a Catholic thing but it does not make the whole district dirty.
  By Anonymous on Friday, November 25, 2011 at 3:13am

• Last week Paul asked me if I knew what goatse meant.
  
  
  wtf
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 at 3:31pm

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  Paul James was the Bee Gees' Marianne Faithfull.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 7, 2011 at 4:56pm

• Paul makes my penis feel funny.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 8:29am

• Thomas Kinkade DEAD. What the FUCK is Paul James going to do for inspiration now?
  By Anonymous on Saturday, April 7, 2012 at 1:33pm

• whatever it is . . .in don't know pastor paul but if he has committed those things as you accuse him, he is accountable to his own doing. we're NO judge. . .the BEST thing is to continually pray for all our pastors. . .on and off the pulpit. have your part. . .as the Body of Christ! [it's not against flesh and blood . . .but against the spirit of darkness trying [just trying] to rule on us. . .IN JESUS' NAME, " WE COMMAND THAT EVIL SPIRIT AND EVIL WAYS TO GET OUT AND GET LOST!" Amen!]
  By gmedepolonia@yahoo.com on Sunday, June 10, 2012 at 11:21pm

• Looks like Hadley Luzerne Wesleyan Church and Brant Lake Wesleyan are the latest victims. Hadley Luzerne is falling apart and is a shadow of its former self. The pastor at Brant Lake was just removed. This is "Leadership"? Looks more like destruction. And believe it or not, the sheep at Hadley Luzerne are willingly following right over the cliff.............
  By Church Member on Friday, June 15, 2012 at 10:05am

• Just came upon this info. My big question is, are these comments from a whole lot of people or just a couple of individuals who have felt abused along the way by Paul James. I have worked with him some and for the kingdom's sake, hope that these are just exagerations.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 at 11:13am

• Can't believe that I am commenting on this stuff. But worse than that - - I can't believe that the Wesleyan Denomination is still letting him run around and represent himself as a Church-Growth Expert. I don't know how much of the immoral stuff is true (obviously a lot of it is correctly reported); However, I do know Church Growth, and have attended one of J.P.'s "lectures"; and I can tell you that this guy knows zilch about it. I am ashamed for the Wesleyan Church for letting this continue.
  By Another Anonymous on Friday, December 28, 2012 at 8:28pm

• It seems that the church's that are part of the transformation project are doing well. I know some have struggled at first but are doing well now. Any positive things from God are a result of the Spirit's movement I realize. I still have not heard any concrete evidence that the man Paul James have committed any wrong doing maybe just maybe having some personality issues. My prayer is that if there is sin involved that the Spirit will reveal it but if this is just an assault from Satan that it will all end and God will receive the glory.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 11:29am

• The transformation project seems to have been a way to line Bordens pockets & get James a free trip sponsored by Borden to thank him for lining his pockets. I see James as be a dividing force rather than a unifying force.
  By Sam on Saturday, June 1, 2013 at 6:09am

• Churches are growing in ENYNE the past few years. A couple have grown a lot. Clearly he is not killing churches. I have seen him speak a few times. He is a good speaker. I have no reason to doubt that his heart is in the right place. He is still a human, and if you try to elevate him to anything about that you are a fool. I am sure all of your pastors have a spreadsheet of poor things. At any case, the holy spirit can and will use a sinful person to fulfill the Kingdom. People are coming to Christ and getting baptized in the North East. We should be thankful for that.
  By Anonymous on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 at 8:29pm

• As a former Wesleyan pastor, I can tell you that I don't think that I've ever set foot inside a Wesleyan church that isn't seriously screwed up in one way or another. I love my denomination, but I don't see how they can last.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 at 5:46pm

• "a spreadsheet of poor things"
  My next music album.
  By Anonymous on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 at 10:29am

• There's a Rev Paul James on Craigslist trying to rent a house for 700 a month on 8800 country rd. Inpls he wants 400 up front before you can even view the home he wants it sent to Africa???
  By Tanya on Friday, December 26, 2014 at 1:59pm

• He's still doing it.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 3:16pm

• This guy needs to be removed from the church. I personally met him. I have a gift to see spiritually. I told my husband things about this man BEFORE reading them on this site. We was abusive to me.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 9:30pm

• This guy needs to be removed from the church. I personally met him. I have a gift to see spiritually. I told my husband things about this man BEFORE reading them on this site. He was abusive to me.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 9:31pm

• I have a good background in business administration and church relations. This guy comes as an expert on both, but in short order demonstrated himself to be a miserable failure in both arenas. I'm really at a loss for words to say how I feel that the Wesleyan church uses this incompetent hit man. Not to mention he appears to be way past retirement age. So much more I could say about the damages this clown left behind in my church and city.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:38pm

• James has a clone in the central Indiana district in Marc T. Watkins.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 10:32pm

• The cloned, clown, Marc T., is a bald version with a few less miles, whereas W. Paul has his full head of hair at such an old age. A head full of hair and Godless ideas. Other than that, the two are quite the pair of overweight, inept, bullies. Pigs to put it plainly. Parallel in practices.
  By Anonymous on Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:45am

• Have found you can't retract posts from this page. That's ok. I have a new one. Quit beating on me. If judgment begins with the house of God, shouldn't the pastor and leaders be the first in line? And shouldn't they be the first to repent? My posts went on here after unthinkable and deserved posts were delivered to me.
  By Anonymous on Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 8:52am

• undeserved. After what I felt was unfair treatment, I posted some comments on here I wish I had not. I hope we all make it.
  By Anonymous on Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 1:10pm

• Paul peed on me. I mean he literally urinated on me. What kind of asswipe does that.
  By Boys School on Friday, December 23, 2016 at 10:47pm

• I bet with all these sex scandals I bet Paul is sweating his ass off if someone comes forward.
  By Anonymous on Friday, December 8, 2017 at 12:21pm

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